[CLUG] elive isp

[Ronan Kirby]

On Fri, 5 May 2000, Citricks wrote:
> I also managed to get the r00t account,

Thats so script kiddy, its almost not funny ;o) I dont think that u/n
would be on a provider's restricted / protected list ;o)

> They don't seem to be 2 secure either, xcept for their name-servers dns1 & 2.

Hmm, on what did you base this assumption. Your nmap scan will show open
ports.  But you have to ask (1) Is there anything listening to that port
(2) Are there vulnerabilities in the process that answers? While on a
Windoze or *nix server we are generaly firmiliar with what can be done to
various open ports, classic example - finger. But you can't use this as a
basis for judging a Mac's security. One may be insecure on one system, but
secure on the mac. Or to phrase another way, say you know a way to exploit
IMAP. What you are /probably/ saying is that you know a hole in IMAPd on a
unix platform. That same bug is by no means guranteed to be in the Mac
IMAPd.

Having said that, I have no doubt that there are lots of bugs in Mac
servers, just as there are with Windows, Unix, etc. But I reckon they are
different bugs to those that we are used to. There is an ISP in Mayo
called ANU who have been running off Macs for donkeys years. I don't know
anyone there personally, but I've never heard of any serious problems
there (Of course that could be 'cos nobody has heard of them;).

Its an interesting area. I think I'll trod off and check the bugtraq
archives for Mac stuff (once Star Gate is over of course:)

- Ronan


> 
> Can Mac stuff scale to High-Eng web processes ?
> 
> Mark
> 
> Ronan Kirby wrote:
> 
> > Well, I do know they were _very_ silly with their reserved address list.
> > They had left a lot of important email addresses open for registration,
> > such as root, hostmaster, noc, abuse, etc etc etc :-D
> >
> > So if thats any guide to their competency, hmm, one has to wonder.
> >
> > On Fri, 5 May 2000, John O'Donovan wrote:
> >
> > > I mentioned this at the meet last night, don't know how many people know
> > > about it already but check out http://www.elivefree.net/ I haven't checked
> > > this out myself yet so i don't know what its like connection wise or
> > > anything.
> > >
> > > 1p/min peak internet access with no subscription fee.
> > >
> > >     Regards,
> > >         John.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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