[ILUG] logrotate

[kevin lyda]

lbedford at wbtsystems.com spoke thusly:
>Don't forget that Solaris/Aix/other ancient Unices, have been around for
>donkeys years, since before perl was even a glimmer of an idea on Larry Wall's
>tongue, and they don't seem to think it's a good idea to add new stuff.

they used to.  i played with version 5 and version 7 unix this weekend.
neither has vi, that was added later.  version 7 had a slew of new binaries
and rather simple things were very different.  for instance /bin/sh in v5
only understood chdir - in version 7 it became the much more sane cd.

yes, the current crop of unix vendors are quite static.  while i don't
feel that the practically random changes in the pc os industry are
sane, i do think changes that prove useful should be added.

simplisticly: /usr/bin is not a museum, it's a work in progress.

>I prefer to build them though, than have all the shite rpm stuff foisted on me,
>so I get stuck with all the annoying dependencies. For example, try to remove
>sendmail and build it from source on a redhat box with the fetchmail rpm on it.
>Oh, and don't cheat by using --nodeps. Or remove fetchmail, nmh, and sendmail, an
>d then build sendmail from sources. Then try to install anything that wants
>sendmail from an rpm.
>
>I hate package dependencies. It drives me mad.

then don't use them!  build nmh, fetchmail, and friends from the rpm's.

alternatively make an empty package that provides the smtpdaemon capability.
i'm not planning on ripping sendmail out of my machine at the moment, but if
it really concerns you i suggest this:

http://suberic.net/~kevin/projects/smtpdaemon

there's a spec file, a src rpm, and noarch rpm file.  if it doesn't work,
let me know.

kevin