[ILUG] cool mailer news...

[kevin lyda]

valen at tuatha.org spoke thusly:
>someone else said...
>> He was also responsible for large chunks Netscape v1 for X, and
>> XEmacs, all of which are horribly bloated. The only things he's good
>> for are XScreenSaver and moaning about how unix is so crap comapared
>> to lisp machines...

good advice on wisdom teeth.  don't forget that.

> Indeed; however, emacs was bloated before he X-ified it...anyway, it seems

yes.  the editor had a lisp interpreter by then, i think it's safe to call
it bloated.

>he's only doing some interface work, and offering advice...things like
>"thou shalt not use anything but the unix mbox (and your own index files,
>if you must)", and "thou shalt not rewrite mail headers (but you can add
>your own)".

i hunted down the posts yesterday and they seemed very wise.  i truly think
propreitary file formats that drive people nuts are caused by people with
"good ideas" on how to "fix things."  mbox is everywhere.  it's not perfect,
but it's workable.  bar slapping it in a database (to search through the last
40 years of messages), it's the best way to go if only because it's what
every other mailer uses.  (ok, besides mh)  and rewriting messages is a
definite no-no.  so i'm glad he's participating and shooting those good
intentions down before they handicap the gnome-mailer before it gets out
the door.

i wonder if the gnome people realize that if they stray from any standard
they're going to find dozens of articles discussing how redhat is attempting
to fragment the linux world?

> Netscape 1 for X wasn't bloated at all. It didn't really start to bloat
>until 3.x.

it was bloated compared to mosaic.  then again it supported advanced features
like inline jpegs...

kevin