[ILUG] [Fwd: [ILUG-ADMIN] cork stuff (fwd)]

[Twomey_Mark at emc.com]

In a very very myopic view of the market,
There are two (And only two) flavours of Unix, namely BSD and System V.
All the differences come from the proprietary crap that the Open Systems
vendors heaped upon one or the other. The reason NT is doing so well is that
MS preach that Open System are too diverse to be useful and that they
provide what most IS dept's love.
Standardisation.
My old favourite "Teach Yourself Unix in 24 hours" states that there are few
differences between BSD an System V based Unix, but it shouldn't take that
long to begin doing all the fancy stuff you could do on your previous system
(I'm taking them on their word for this....) 
All this being said however...do I think that there should be a single
unified Unix...heck no.

Mark.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Donncha O Caoimh [SMTP:donncha.ocaoimh at tradesignals.com]
> Sent:	Tuesday, June 22, 1999 10:59 AM
> To:	ilug at linux.ie
> Subject:	Re: [ILUG] [Fwd: [ILUG-ADMIN] cork stuff (fwd)]
> 
> One reason for not supporting other Unix platforms is resources. I
> myself simply don't have the time to push other brands of Unix.
> 
> One of the nice things about knowing Linux is the experience transfers
> pretty well to other Unices (once you install bash and other GNU
> utils!). Any Linux advocate with technical skills can use his Linux
> skills to administer other Unix platforms fairly well. The mainstream
> has caught on to this, and when PHBs learn it too they'll hire us Linux
> guys to take care of their Sun boxes! That's a good reason, if for no
> other, that we make people aware of the Linux experience around the
> country. (self-serving, yes, but it helps us all in the end)
> 
> A business man will go to linux.com first, and I'm positive he'll be
> impressed, but if he is told about linux.ie he'll come here too..
> 
> Donncha.
> 
> Mike Knell wrote:
> > 
> > Kevin Lyda wrote:
> > > John McCormac burst across the net:
> > > >No. It is counter-intuitive. People will automatically type
> www.linux.ie
> > > >- anything else would be confusing. It is far better to have
> > > >www.linux.ie acting as the gateway.
> > >
> > > it's completely intuitive.  it's also more pronouncable.  (anyone here
> > > ever notice that "www" has more syllables then "world wide web?")
> > 
> > As I read my list traffic on the bus rather than in work, I've come a
> bit
> > late to this discussion, but thought I'd share the thoughts that sprang
> > into my mind while reading this thread anyway.
> > 
> > While local groups are a good thing (they provide a handy focus for
> > people who feel the need to meet up, drink beer and slag off Microsoft
> in
> > addition to catering for mankind's genetic urge to form steering
> > committees), there's a bigger picture which it's important not to lose
> > sight of.
> > 
> > It's very important to avoid insularity - although I only heard about it
> > not very long ago, it's a real shame, IMO, that the Irish UUG had to
> fold
> > due to lack of interest when there's one flavour of UNIX (Look, I know
> > Linux isn't officially UNIX, but it looks and quacks like that
> particular
> > duck enough for nobody to notice that it's really a penguin) that's
> going
> > great guns in the home market as well as in traditional UNIX sectors. It
> > would be nice if the UNIX community could present a united front
> > rather than fragmenting, and even nicer if those sections of the Linux
> > community who don't seem to realise that Linux is not the only UNIX out
> > there got a view of the bigger picture.
> > 
> > I think what I'm trying to say is that it's important not to spend so
> much
> > time examining the grass-roots in detail that you forget what the rest
> of
> > the meadow looks like - Linux is a global effort, and there are more
> OSes
> > out there than just NT and Linux.
> > 
> > Finally, on the domain name issue - if users think like I think they do,
> > the most likely URL for your average businessman to type into a web
> > browser if they want to know about Linux will be "www.linux.com", not
> > linux.ie.. I remember discussing with Colm when linux.ie was in the
> > process of registration why ie.linux.org. wouldn't do the same trick
> > without second-level DNS growth _and_ indicate that it was part of a
> > global Linux community. He didn't agree with me, needless to say. *grin*
> > 
> > Anyway, don't mind me. Just thought I'd express some incoherent
> opinions.
> > I'll shut up now.
> >
> 
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