[ILUG] Novell netware and Linux?

[Dave Airlie]

<shameless plug>
I've also a program that checks Linux username/passwords against Netware
servers 

http://www.csn.ul.ie/~airlied/pam_ncp/

It doesn't have a nice web page or anything like pam_smb, but it does
work, if you are using 2.2 get the one from
ftp://ftp.csn.ul.ie/pub/linux/pam/pam_ncp/test/
</shameless plug>

Printing to Netware printers is one thing that you'll probably also want,
and this is something I've not seen, 

Also be careful with mars_nwe if you think of setting it up on a
pre-existing Netware network, I once had the misfortune of locking out
every Netware server in Intel Ireland for an hour, and crashing 3 of them,
to put it simply they were not happy ...

Dave

On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 Stephen_Reilly at dell.com wrote:

> You can mount netware volumes on a linux system, logging in via either NDS
> or Binary depending on what your user account is set up as. Do a man
> ncpmount for more details. There is also a client program for linux logging
> in to Netware Volumes. http://www.de.uu.net/shop/JFL/linux/NETCALD.HTM
> <http://www.de.uu.net/shop/JFL/linux/NETCALD.HTM>  here's a report on it
> http://www.zdnet.com/sr/stories/issue/0,4537,372650,00.html
> <http://www.zdnet.com/sr/stories/issue/0,4537,372650,00.html>  , originally
> written for Caldera but portable to other distributions. There's also
> support for Netware pserver and rprinter on Unix/Linux platforms. Let's see
> now what else have we .... Eh there are "Netware Servers" packages for
> Linux; mars_nwe and lwared. 
> 
> 	I'm sure there's a lot more out there, after all Unix and Netware
> have been having conversations with each other for quite some time now . . .
> Then other systems started butting in, ah well.
> 
> --Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 		-----Original Message-----
> 		From:	John Gay [mailto:John_Gay at eur.3com.com]
> 		Sent:	Wednesday, October 13, 1999 8:04 AM
> 		To:	ilug at linux.ie
> 		Subject:	[ILUG] Novell netware and Linux?
> 
> 
> 
> 		I realise this is probably a no-brainer, but, being
> lan-illiterate, I'll ask
> 		anyway.
> 
> 		I've made some progress in encouraging the use of Linux over
> M$, but am still
> 		getting some flack. The latest nail I put in M$'s coffin
> here was StarOffice.
> 		Now that it is being distributed by Sun, and completely
> free, rather than the
> 		personal version, this is getting serious consideration to
> replace M$ office.
> 		I've also been told that there is also a Lotus Notes client
> available for Linux.
> 		This pretty much wraps it up for necessary app's. Netscape
> is the default
> 		browser, due to I.E.'s failings. The last question that's
> been asked of me was,
> 		'Can we still use Novell Netware?' I don't fully understand
> how Novell fits in,
> 		exactly, but it is what we use to log in. I've also provided
> full information
> 		about Printer support, which was also a concern, but rather
> pointless, as we use
> 		HP's almost exclusively, and they are all fully supported.
> If I could explain,
> 		with confidence that, yes, of course you can still use
> Novell, I just might be
> 		able to convince the powers that allmost-be to set up one
> Linux box as a
> 		workstation and give it a good trial. First, they could give
> it to a
> 		UNIX-literate type, until they get all the config's the way
> they like, then they
> 		could try giving  it to a regular desk jockey and see just
> how trouble-free it
> 		is when macro-virii no longer cause it to slow to a crawl,
> and the desk jockey
> 		can no longer keep down-loading multiple screen savers and
> games that then
> 		refuse to remove themselves cleanly. I don't expect this to
> happen over night,
> 		but then just last year I was told ' There is absolutely NO
> WAY a Linux box will
> 		be allowed on our LAN.' Now I am constantly being approached
> by this same person
> 		asking things like, 'can I get a Lotus client for Linux? How
> about an office
> 		suite? Will it work with Novell? But it doesn't support most
> printers, does it?
> 		Can I make it look like WindowsNT so no one will notice it?'
> I am starting to
> 		think that possibly, in another year or two, Linux will
> start to replace NT and
> 		95 on the desktops. The last obstacle is the support issue.
> With Sun, HP, IBM,
> 		Dell and all the rest getting behind Linux, I can't see that
> standing in the way
> 		much longer. After all, ALL our Desktop PS's are Dell!
> 
> 		If you can provide a URL I can forward that explains using
> Novell with Linux, it
> 		would be very helpful to the cause.
> 
> 		Cheers,
> 
> 		     John Gay
> 
> 
> 
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