[ILUG] Something to look forward to after Christmas

[John P . Looney]

On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:47:31PM +0000, Dermot McGahon mentioned:
> Their opinions haven't changed. They are the same opinions that have
> changed the world. Just because people are now trying to shake money
> out of the open source tree doesn't mean that we should hide away the
> embarrasing members of the family. 

 Calling them nutters is hardly hiding them. 

> RMS says what he means and does what he says. Without him you would
> Microserf. Because of him you get to have some fun while you work.
> Since when did moral fortitude and the ability to stand by your views
> become craziness and illogicalness?

 When those views are crazy and illogical ? I understand that RMS has done
some great work. That the GPL is a fabulous idea. But he really believes
that everyone could make a living the same way he did. And that's nuts.

> ESR is a different kettle of fish. I don't personally like him. His
> viewpoints on many things wouldn't be mine and to be honest I see him
> as an opportunist. All the same, you can hardly fairly characterise
> him as mixed up, crazy and illogical. He is none of these things.

 I'm sorry, but anyone that can identify free software and access to guns
as part of the same struggle for freedom is crazy. And I don't see the
arguments as logical.

> If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem. RMS
> and ESR are part of the solution. I am part of the problem. I would
> prefer to be part of the solution but I haven't had the courage of my
> convictions. Which are you part of?

 That's a juvenile view. You can be on the sideline, just making a living
without being either, and not considering that can make you very rude.

Kat

-- 
 When I say 'free', I mean 'free': free from bond, of chain or command: 
to go where you will, even to Mordor, Saruman, if you desire. " 
    -- Gandalf, paraphrasing the choice between Free and Non-free software