John McDonnell said:
> yeah but the guy seems to be a bit of a dozy git. Don't want a web
> server? Then don't install it! I've grown accustomed to the amount of apps
> supplied with my dists and I wouldn't like to see them reduced so that to
> get a complete installation I'd have to get several boxes worth of stuff
> of spend half the week on freshmeat (assuming I can get through).
Yeah, IMHO it's an installer usability thing really.
I'd prefer to see them installed at least -- I hate crawling through CD
boxes looking for that distro disk, or worse, having to wait 'til the next
day to bring it home from work.
I think the worse problem is that, once they're installed, they can be
impossible to find.
UNIX systems used to have "apropos" or "man -k" to search for an
application -- if you wanted a hex editor, you could type "apropos hex"
hexdump (1) - ascii, decimal, hexadecimal, octal dump
xxd (1) - make a hexdump or do the reverse
ascii (7) - the ASCII character set encoded in octal, decimal, and hexadecimal
iso_8859-1 (7) - the ISO 8859-1 character set encoded in octal, decimal, and hexadecimal
iswxdigit (3) - test for hexadecimal digit wide character
But since then nobody seems to write manual pages anymore (I blame the
crappy GNU info format), and all of a sudden there's no guarantee there's
a manual page for any given application, so that way doesn't work.
Witness the recent stuff on the LWN letters page about "service", a handy
util that I'd say most Red Hat users have rewritten ;)
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