[ILUG] bloody redhat!!

[lbedford at wbtsystems.com]

On Sat, Feb 12, 2000 at 04:26:22PM +0000, Paul Jakma wrote:
> 3. Documentation: Why have redhat decided to stop installing man
> pages? And why is the /usr/doc stuff so inadequate?
> 
> Loads of rpm packages don't install man pages anymore, even though
> the original source has them, eg xntpd!! Other packages are woefully
> badly documented, eg gdm2, esd ... etc. Where is the documentation on
> how to configure gdm? I know it exists, cause i remember reading it
> when i installed gnome by hand ages ago!!!
For some god unknown reason, man isn't good enough for the gnu
people anymore. They seem to use info for _everything_ they
can get their hands on. Fine.. but I've never liked info,
the only way I can navigate around it without losing my
marbles is with gnome-help-browser. If you go to the man
pages, most of them tell you the man page isn't being maintained
any more... it's the same under Debian and RedHat...

I think there originally was a reason that RedHat put a
script in to run netscape (I think it involved sending
commands to a remote instance if there was one), but
they seem to have lost the plot on that one.

Re: binaries in /usr/bin
It's got a lot to do with gnome and a few gnuish utilities.
Very few packages now come with instructions to set them
up in /usr/local/ipsec (FreeS/WAN does :)), and then
create links... I think Kate had a /usr/local/packages/*
system, which I played with for a while, but gnome fell
over all the time (try building gnome from scratch with
it's libraries in non-system dirs, /etc/ld.so.conf suddenly
becomes a list of /usr/local/*)... 

I have got stow on this machine, but as I'm following that
building linux from scratch, it's not going to be of much use..

(The main thing that bugs me personally about RedHat is the
fact that doing a reasonably basic install of 6.0/6.1,
with the Dev environment on, and kernel development on,
is between 250-400 Mb... too big for me (and I know
2.3.42 takes 100Mb just for the source!))

L.
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