[ILUG] PHP posts and apache posts to list

[Philip Reynolds]

adam beecher's [adam at iewebs.com] 16 lines of dribble included:
:>I just remembered - I have dotphp3.com parked on my server. I've also got
:>dotcgi.com Talk about not seeing the wood for the trees. :)
:>
:>One other point I forgot to mention - in setting up a general webdev list,
:>there's a risk of drawing in the JavaScript and HTML newbies. Whatever about ASP
:>and Cold Fusion and the like, this is a major concern. The odd HTML question I
:>can handle. Regular "how do you put a border around a table? I'm using
:>Frontpage" postings, I can't.

Unfortunately you're probably going to have to take the good with the bad. To
be honest I think this webdev list should be setup with a huge priority on
Linux/BSD/<insert random other variants here> servers, as opposed to Windows
based servers. Lines have to be drawn somewhere, you're going to have to make
a distinction between web development and web _design_. Are graphicsy/arty
questions allowed for example? IMHO it should be restricted like that to a
certain extent. 
You actually write and test your code on Windows, you're putting to to the
test on a Linux server, that's the main point. I think it'd be better if we
didn't advertise Windows as some sort of server environment, but then that's
up to you guys.

The list is a bloody good idea, for a couple of reasons:
1) There are already enough Web Development/APACHE related question on this
list, they aren't totally considered off topic (sometimes not at all) but I
don't post mine here because I don't feel they aren't particularly relevant.
That's not saying they aren't but I don't feel comfortable doing so, the  list
would promote a bit more activity in this way.
2) In the same way ILUG promotes Linux in a good way I think this would be a
great opportunity to introduce new users to a web development learning
environment. It'd help people with code, general basic UNIXy stuff, apache
etc. It could hopefully promote the use of good strong web development
standards.
3) It would relieve some of the discussion off this list. Why is that a good
idea? Kate mentioned today that some of the more "hardcore" users (for want of
a better word) left the list. Although a lot of the discussion here can be
related back to Linux, it's probably not half as focused as it used to be (or
as it should be perhaps, but that's debateable). That's how I see it anyways.
Just some food for thought..

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