[ILUG] Flamefests

[Colm Buckley]

> == David Murphy
>> == Colm Buckley (me)

>> I'm *vaguely* concerned about the flamewars which erupted over the
>> RAID and Firewall discussions recently.  [...]

> Why mince words? You [and I presume the majority of readers] don't
> want technical discussions on the list, particularly if they're going
> to involve Linux shortcomings. Why not say that, put it in the
> charter, and and have done.

Don't talk arse.  That's *not* what I said, it's *not* what I want, and
I resent your attempting to put words into my mouth.  I have no problem
with technical discussions of indeterminate length on this list, and
neither do the bulk of the subscribers, I'm sure.  This isn't Slashdot,
either, and there is no problem with people pointing out those areas
where Linux is deficient.  It is, after all, by identification of faults
that the OS improves;  more than almost any other system, Linux has this
capacity to rapidly fix its problems - cf: the recent revolutions in the
networking and filesystem code.

The problem arises with the tendency to personalise the discussion, and
interpret disagreement as hostility.  This leads to a poisonous
atmosphere, personal disagreements, feuds and factions, which is what I
*don't* want on the list.

> Me, I'm done with this list.

A pity, I suppose.

> Kate, you want my explanation of why clueful people leave ILUG, it's
> because anything which is interesting (i.e. outside the scope of
> I-have-a-question-here-is-the-answer-thanks-very-much, which is
> obviously only of interest to the questioner and anyone with a similar
> question) gets squashed.

How so?  I'm not moderating the list, so no "squashing" has been done
*at* *all*.  On occasion, I've asked for civility to be maintained,
which is hardly the same thing.  As I've said before, flaming is fine in
response to an ill-conceived post, but ongoing flamewars are Just Dumb.

In words of few syllables : Feel Free To Talk About Anything Related To
Linux Here But Keep It Polite, Thank You.

> I continue to offer the technobabble list [1] for anyone who would
> like an Irish forum for unfettered technical discussion (although
> soliloquies are off-topic, Kenn ;).

"*My* football is a much *better* football than *your* football."
You're behaving like a spoiled child; I hope you grow up some day.

          Colm

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