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[ILUG] [way-ot] darklight.com should, never, ever, be considered for web-anything

[ILUG] [way-ot] darklight.com should, never, ever, be considered for web-anything

Jonathan Stein stein at darklite.com
Sun May 7 16:28:42 IST 2000


> I wonder why did you remove them ?

I actaully thought you had a good point, as I said in the earlier posting -
to be honest I never considered the possibility that linux users would have
difficulty closing the floating window.

> Your mouse manual wouldn't help - that maddening wandering window wouldn't
> close by clicking its close button - I don't know why, because that's a
> window manager thing, but I couldn't close it with a mouse click - I had
to
> give the window focus (not easy) and use a keyboard command to close it.

Again, perhaps I should have designed the page with linux browsers in mind,
but if you cannot close a window on the browser, thats something for the
software to answer to.

> Suberic.net does its job, without needless graphic clutter, and would be
> quite usable by a visually handicapped user.

The topic was design, my site also does its job - and the I doubt any
business customer would be impressed with a plaintext webpage without any
other content. I would prefer the service and design of a site to be
evaluated by customers first, peers second, and unrelated viewers with more
critisism than your average secondary school teacher, last.

> As a consumer of said services, I agree. However, I need physical access
to
> my servers, so I pay up and look cheerful if the business case justifies
the
> price. I read that there is a big web farm being built in City West under
> contract to the government and prices are set to plummet, if one can
believe
> what one reads.

Lets hope so, but bearing in mond the prices available in the UK, I don't
see how Ireland could be significantly better.

> That's fine, as long as your clients are aware that hosting with this
Irish
> company is not the same as Irish hosting.

To be honest most Irish 'hosts' who offer commercial services use offshore
facilities, the excpetions mainly are bigger ISPs who offer more than just
hosting. The major difference in these cases is usually price, who wants to
pay £500 - £1000 for a few mb of webspace with a cgi-bin and a shell??

> What kind of support do I have when I'm not dealing with the people who
own
> or host the machine ?

Since Darklite-SCE has full access to the machine, via rewt, onfig changes
can easily be made, thats the difference between reselling USA virtual
space, and reselling space on your own DEDICATED server located in the USA.

> This I'm afraid is wrong, both in theory and practice. To get to a machine
> in alabanza.net or any US based "world class hosting facility" an Irish
user
> has to fight for a scare resource i.e. his ISP's transatlantic links and
> more than likely pass through several more routers. Just doing a
rudimentary
> ping -c 20 I get

As you can see, there is 0% packet loss, and since the 'best' most clients
will have is a ISDN or the more likely 56k modem, I would doubt they would
make any dent into the massive ISP transatlantic capacity. So while
primarily I agree with you - I don't think any of my clients would be
willing to pay more than four times my current prices for a what amounts to
a non noticable speed increase.

> Surely the MD doesn't have to slave for the corporate whore machine :-)

Only on my days off ;P

Redards,

Jonathan







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