[ILUG] [ot] .ie...

[James Raftery]

On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 12:44:12PM +0100, kevin lyda wrote:
> and speaking of the rules, doesn't linux.ie violate the rules?

Not that I'm aware.

> but beyond that what about companies that have the same names as towns? 

Tough, to be blunt.

> is there a ballygowan, or is the flat namespace solution
> ballygowanspringwater.ie?  afaik companies can register with the same
> name as a town.

No they can't.

> well that's not going to work because town names are only unique by
> county, not nationwide.

Fine. The first one that applies get's it.

> oh, and ireland's groing in case people haven't
> been paying attention to census figures.  what happens when a new town
> springs up - ballyfoo - and there's a ballyfoo.ie?  who loses, does the
> town have to pick a new name,

Town names are chosen based on IE domain names?

> or does ballyfoo.ie lose it's name.

ballyfoo.ie keeps their name.

> and there's a baltimore.ie.  now you might be tempted to think that
> people in baltimore might just not care about the net, but you'd be

Rules change. The current ones sprung up at the start of 1999.

> wouldn't it be better if there was a www.baltimore.cork.ie and a
> www.baltimore.co.ie?

I don't know. But if you want to find out, why not approach Cork County
Council, for instance, and give a brief overview of the advantages of
the DNS over hosts.txt with particular emphasis on the concept of
delegation of authority.
Tell them that if they register cork.ie they could delegate domains below
that, as you suggest. Sell it to them as being a good thing for them to
do for their county, their community and .IE in general. They could be
pioneers - the first county council to do something useful with their
name (as opposed to the many 'useful' county council websites that are 
around)

> i just spent about five minutes looking though the domain list, and
> rules or no rules its a mess.  and this excuse for a set of rules was
> created by the "irish internet community."  right.  how many people here
> - who generally have a clue - were on this community, and were they
> listened to?

Attendances at meetings are listed on the website. Check the mailing
list archives. Look through the ODPH stuff to see the process that
brought about the current rules. Oh, and use the IEDR-FORUM list - that
way something might happen out of this talk.

james
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