DIY ASDL in Ireland :- Was [IIU][ILUG] OT But esat unlimited has been scrapped

[Gearoid Griffin]

Chris
>Folks,
>Before we start the petitions, and the calls for heads to roll we need to 
>formalize
>our goal. From what's been said so far, I think that this goal can be written 
>as
>
>--
>To give people the facility to use highspeed (> 128 < 1MB) internet access 
>from
>home at a reasonable price, immediately. 
>--

Yep agreed with that behind ya all the way

>
>In thinking about this, I took a look at the supplier market in the telecoms 
>sector
>in Ireland. At the moment - for residential use, it's Eircom or Esat.. No-one 
>else
>has a national infrastructure. If you wanted to get your aDSL service from 
>Foo Telecoms Ltd, then they will just end up renting/leasing the lines from 
>either
>Eircom or Esat anyway.
>


>It's clear (at least to me) that Eircom want to stall this (as a business 
>tactic)
>for as long as possible. Esat are trying to compete with Eircom on too many 
>fronts,
>and are getting stretched a little thin. 

Well considering how much debt BT is in atm, that is understandable

<snip>
>
>Let's say - 
>DSL access server (DSLAM) - £ 8000
>DSL modem                 - £  150 per house
>Internet connection (2Mb) - £ 2000
>
>Your ongoing charges are the maintenance charge on your DSL kit, the internet
>feed.
>DSLAM maintenance - £  500
>Internet port     - £20000
>
>
>For 100 houses, that's 8000+2000+(150*100) == 25000 == £250 per house
>Plus 200 per annum service charge..
>
</snip>

MMm im just wondering where you got the price for the 2mb line? It seems a tad low.... Im just looking at the Esat Business prices for a 2mb line is quite a bit higher that 2K, (if 
ya have any info with regards to that price, let me stand corrected :) )


>Create the local ISP as a not-for-profit company, and let people in the 
>locality
>do the support.. Create a local WWW site that has a list of the techies that
>will pop round to your house and fix your problems... at £20 a go... The 
>techies
>cover their petrol/wear-and-tear-on-pedals and jolt costs. The users get 
>someone who is there to fix things.
>
>Remember the way the TV reflector people started - it was service on a 
>shoe-string,
>but they got it working in the main - now it's all big business.. If we can 
>get the local loop unbundled, then maybe the internet in Ireland needs to be
>reborn the same way..

Great Idea I remember see something like this working in Sweden (holy land of great bandwidth :) ) from Ilug. Ya never know there could be the opportunity for grant aid  here 
as well.

Gearoid