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[ILUG] [OT ish] Peering - Ireland and the world

[ILUG] [OT ish] Peering - Ireland and the world

Paul Jakma paul at clubi.ie
Tue May 8 16:14:35 IST 2001


On Tue, 8 May 2001, Chris Higgins wrote:

> I'm not sure what you mean by 'all their lines go to london/amsterdam ?'
> What has that go to do with anything ?
>
> INEX is meant for peering, to allow national traffic to stay national..
> If a customer of BigTelco wants to send traffic to a customer of
> OtherTelco then that traffic should[1] stay local. The location or
> indeed relevance of BigTelco's international pipes doesn't matter.[2]

ok.. think about it. Imagine 2 layers. Top layer are the Big Telcos,
second layer are the national ISPs, via, esat, etc..

The second layer are customers of the top layer for extra-ireland
traffic and the second layer peer amongst themselves at INEX.

What is the use of the top layer peering at INEX too? Esp. as the
top-layer, to my knowledge, do not operate any national networks of
any significance. (maybe their POPs, that's it.).

If you buy bandwidth from the top-layer then you are probably already
big enough to peer at INEX yourself.

> [1] I've no objections to exporting our traffic, and I'm sure that the nice
> people in other countries don't mind it much either... but building the
> internet is not like building roads in Ireland.. The most direct route is
> normally the best (assuming that the route isn't congested, but congestion
> at this level is a matter for the protocols, not the route designers.)

exactly...

imagine:

Murphy Net - peered at INEX. have lines through GlobalFoo.
RyanCom - peered at INEX. have lines with BigNet.

what would be the point in BigNet and GlobalFoo peering at INEX? it's
not going reduce their traffic cause the traffic is already going
over INEX.

The BigTelcos, and many more, are already peering with each other in
places like LINX and AMS-IX. (Eircom and Via are also AMS-IX peers).

regards,
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