[ILUG] woah...

[Liam Bedford]

On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 04:20:08PM +0100, Smelly Pooh came forth with:
> In reply to Liam Bedford's flatulent wordings, 
> > On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 03:30:56PM +0100, Dave Airlie came forth with:
> > > 
> > > jeez.. Theo deRaadt has removed ipf from OpenBSD CVS tree.. I hope this
> > > isn't getting blown out of all proportion..
> > > 
> > I don't think it is...
> > 
> > ipf doesn't have a free license, whether it be for the beta version, or
> > for the full version (unless OpenBSD organise an agreement with Darren,
> > and that doesn't cover other people), so it clashes with the stated aims
> > of the OpenBSD project, in that it's not free to do anything with...
> > 
> > so, you can still use ipf on OpenBSD, but you can't modify it in _any_ way
> > unless you have an agreement with Darren.
> > 
> > At least, that's how I understand it..
> 
> It's certainly very damaging to OpenBSD to suddenly lose its only standard
> firewall package (what percentage of OpenBSD installations are used as
> firewalls?).  OpenBSD 2.9 is due start of June, if ipf is also removed from
> that (I have my doubts) then they have honestly fucked themselves over.
2.9 has been stable for a month and a bit now... it's going to be in 2.9.

the next version (2.10/3.0) has had it removed from it, and it will be gone
from the next snapshot..
> 
> For Darren Reed's comments on the current situation with the other BSDs (as I
> mentioned before, FreeBSD and NetBSD come with ipf) check
> 
> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2001/05 /30/0004.html 
interesting, from reading openbsd-tech & misc, they think that Darren was the
problem causer, and the one who was hard to work with (and it wasn't just
Theo, who is hard to deal with, especially 2 days before a release)

L.
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