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[ILUG] Echelon exists..so says EU report

[ILUG] Echelon exists..so says EU report

cybersean3000 at yahoo.com cybersean3000 at yahoo.com
Sat Sep 15 01:34:21 IST 2001


Don't forget that source is available for OpenSSH and SSL.  If you 
can compile it, so can anyone.  There is no technology to protect you 
from the NSA.  Proprietary or Open Source, they know about it and can 
get around it.  On a weekly basis, even before this week, the CIA 
would round up kids across America and slap their hands with "Don't 
do that!" They can trace an attempted break-in all the way back to a 
phone jack in a house!  The University of Alabama does computer 
research for the CIA, and you may be familiar with their on-line 
extension: American Institute for Computer Sciences (www.aics.edu).  
If the CIA has these resources and power, you can guarantee the NSA 
has it one hundred-fold.

On 14 Sep 2001, at 16:29, Rick Moen wrote:

> begin druid quotation:
> 
> > EU report confirms the existance of Echelon.
> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/21680.html
> 
> Interesting quotation:
> 
> "It's safe to assume that if an organisation like the NSA is told it may
> do something then it will. This can be extended to: if the NSA isn't
> told it can't do something then it probably does."
> 
> Even those of us in the USA find our communications (legally)
> scrutinised by the NSA, when it crosses borders -- or probably even when
> it goes through uplinks that service overseas connections.
> 
> > With the recent events, can we expect a more intrusive scheme ?
> 
> I wouldn't doubt it.  Remember, gnupg, OpenSSH, and SSL are your
> friends.
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,        "Linux means never having to delete your love mail."
> Rick Moen                                              -- Don Marti
> rick at linuxmafia.com
> 
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