[ILUG] Software Choice

[Silent Partner]

ref Microsoft paying apple $130, that was quite obviously missing an
"M", should have read $130M
:$
----- Original Message -----
From: "Silent Partner" <sp at silentpartner.cx>
To: <ilug at linux.ie>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [ILUG] Software Choice


>
> > Padraig Brady wrote:
> > > Thanks for all the info!
> > > I'm a little confused about the java VM though.
> > > You say they're "illegally redistributing an old Microsoft Java
> VM"
> > > i.e. http://www.ros.ie/info/msjavx86.exe
>
> I'm out of touch with the mac scene for about 2 years, so don't know
> about the apple link, but I do know that Microsoft do not grant
> re-distribution rights to downloaders of the VM. In the event that
ROS
> / Accenture wanted to redistribute this old VM to make the site
work,
> they would have entered into a licence arrangement with Microsoft,
and
> the download would have been required to be packaged with the
> Microsoft Internet Administration Kit to comply with distribution
> rights & practices.
>
> Apple VM's for IE would probably have been developed by Apple or in
> conjunction with Apple, and remember Microsoft paying Apple US$130
to
> support the platform? Apple and Microsoft are not only friends, but
> Microsoft for obvious reasons are actively lending their support to
> keep the OS alive, and you can expect that there are plenty of
> gentleman agreements between the two. Accenture on the other hand
> building a site on top of Netscape Application Server, on Sun Sparc
/
> Solaris hardware and OS, implentation with SUN JAVA..... I'm getting
a
> severe anti Microsoft feeling.... and Microsoft would most
definately
> required somthing to be deployed on IIS or built using ActiveX
> controls before allowing Accenture to save their ass with an old JVM
> download, especially when that download poses a security risk, and
> doestn't conform to the microsoft update philosophy.
>
> Anyway, ROS are in problems in the very short term, because the
> standard Microsoft VM download will most certainly be in line with
JRE
> 1.4 very very shortly, ie, next 6 months, and therefore the only way
> Accenture can keep ROS working is to provide the old VM download,
and
> instructions on how to disable "windows update", and tips to keep
bug
> and security fixes out of you JVM. Death and taxes may be certain,
but
> people organising their entire computer setup to accomodate ROS is
> most not guaranteed, and if this is the path for the future, then
they
> cannot expect their current 1% adoption rate to increase anywhere
near
> the 50% adoption rate required by 2005. Yeah, 16Million taxpayers
> pounds down into Accentures pockets to build a crap disfunctional
site
> that only 1% of the target audience are adopting. I can't wait to
see
> senior civil servants and ministers resigning over this one.
>
> My sincere apologies for the multiple occurances of the word
> "microsoft" in this mail, I hope I have broken anybody's awk
scripts.
>
> SP
>
> > > But they also provide a link to the same VM for apple users:
> > > http://asu.info.apple.com/swupdates.nsf/artnum/n11927
> >
> > That is actually an invalid link, but it is available at apple @:
> > http://tardis.redbrick.dcu.ie/448/download.info.apple.com
> >
> > > So does that mean apple are doing this illegally so?
> > > Why is it illegal exactly?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > Padraig.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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