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[ILUG] Mother and Father.

[ILUG] Mother and Father.

steve ryan steve at steveryan.org
Tue Jul 9 14:33:57 IST 2002


I 0WN U SO BAD!!!

;)

On Tuesday 09 July 2002 14:25, Gary Coady wrote:
> Apologies and thanks to Eric S. Raymond - the following is an extract from
> http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
> Odds are you'll screw up a few times on hacker community forums - in ways
> detailed in this article, or similar. And you'll be told exactly how you
> screwed up, possibly with colourful asides. In public.
>
> When this happens, the worst thing you can do is whine about the
> experience, claim to have been verbally assaulted, demand apologies,
> scream, hold your breath, threaten lawsuits, complain to people's
> employers, leave the toilet seat up, etc. Instead, here's what you do:
>
> Get over it. It's normal. In fact, it's healthy and appropriate.
>
> Community standards do not maintain themselves: They're maintained by
> people actively applying them, visibly, in public. Don't whine that all
> criticism should have been conveyed via private mail: That's not how it
> works. Nor is it useful to insist you've been personally insulted when
> someone comments that one of your claims was wrong, or that his views
> differ. Those are loser attitudes.
>
> There have been hacker forums where, out of some misguided sense of
> hyper-courtesy, participants are banned from posting any fault-finding with
> another's posts, and told "Don't say anything if you're unwilling to help
> the user." The resulting departure of clueful participants to elsewhere
> causes them to descend into meaningless babble and become useless as
> technical forums.
>
> Exaggeratedly "friendly" (in that fashion) or useful: Pick one.
>
> Remember: When that hacker tells you that you've screwed up, and (no matter
> how gruffly) tells you not to do it again, he's acting out of concern for
> (1) you and (2) his community. It would be much easier for him to ignore
> you and filter you out of his life. If you can't manage to be grateful, at
> least have a little dignity, don't whine, and don't expect to be treated
> like a fragile doll just because you're a newcomer with a theatrically
> hypersensitive soul and delusions of entitlement.




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