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[ILUG] [Netsoc] FBI + Sun security experts!

[ILUG] [Netsoc] FBI + Sun security experts!

Rick Moen rick at linuxmafia.com
Tue Mar 12 21:57:20 GMT 2002


Quoting John Tobin (tobinjt at netsoc.tcd.ie):

> From: helena at netsoc.tcd.ie
> Subject: [Netsoc] FBI + Sun security experts!

[...]

> JIM SETTLE: Chief Executive, Settle Services in Technology and former head 
> of Computer Crime Unit, FBI 
> 
> Settle re-organised the FBI's efforts in dealing with network computer 
> crime. As the former head of the FBI's National Computer Crime Squad, he 
> knows the methods used to break into public switched networks, the 
> internet, and packet switched common carriers. Jim co-authored the 
> "Internet and Internetworking Security Handbook" and the recent Simon and 
> Schuster book, "@ Large," is about Settle and the FBI's National Computer 
> Crime Squad. He is regularly consulted on network security by the major 
> print and TV media including NBC, CNN, USA Today, The Wall Street Journal 
> and Wired.

It's probably well worth attending.  But, in hopes that it's somewhat
relevant, the FBI has shown a very notable _lack_ of clue about computer
security.

Mostly we of the USA Linux community have heard from the FBI when its
"National Infrastructure Protection Center" (NIPC) puts out
self-serving, shallow, and often just plain wrong press releases about
security threats.  In its several-year history, the NIPC has been
completely out of touch with the computer/network security community;
it's functioned primarily to grab headlines and accomplished nothing
else (that I know of).

What exactly are these bozos doing with my tax money?

o  They spend lots of time telling corporate sites running MS-Windows NT
   Web servers to apply service packs.  (For this, we need a Federal
   bureaucracy to be the world's nanny?)

o  In December 2000, they (apparently) misinterpreted a couple of kids
   manipulating a badly misconfigured ftp server, and sent out an
   alarmist press release warning of terrorist attacks on US power
   utilities.

o  In March 2001, they sent out another alarmist newsblatt about the
   allegedly dire threat of the (not very new) "Lion" worm, which they
   claimed in error autoinstalled a DDoS tool on Linux boxes.  (Lion
   was a one-week-wonder autoexploit of vulnerable BIND v. 8
   installations left running by comatose sysadmins.)

o  Publishing a tool called "find_ddos" that is rather vaguely claimed
   to scan Linux systems for tfn, trinoo, and stacheldraht, and then 
   DENYING ACCESS TO SOURCE CODE.  A number of us, including people 
   with much bigger names than mine, tried to hit them with a clue stick 
   over this one, suggesting that it was arrogant and unclear on the
   concept of system security, to expect us to not worry our pretty
   little heads over what's in it or exactly what it does and does not
   do, and instead just run it with root authority like good little
   peons.  And were completely ignored.

The latter incident was particularly galling, and, to my knowledge,
sysadmins in general have been ignoring them completely since then,
as presumptively hopeless.

Now, I understand that there's a new Office of Cyberspace Security,
created in November by the President Select, Mr. Bush.  I hope they'll
actually accomplish something useful, but have my doubts.

-- 
Cheers,                 "Heedless of grammar, they all cried 'It's him!'"
Rick Moen                       -- R.H. Barham, _Misadventure at Margate_
rick at linuxmafia.com




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