[ILUG] Galeon and gnome

[Rick Moen]

Quoting David Neary (bolsh at gimp.org):

> Ah. If that was your point, I did indeed. miss it. I understood that
> Niall wanted to know (a) whether the installation of GNOME was
> required to run GNOME, and (b) whether that implied running the GNOME
> environment (within gnome-session, with stuff like gnome-panel
> running). The answer to (a) is yes,...

The answer to (a) is _no_.

As _usually_ constructed, Galeon requires bonobo/libbonobo2, several GDK
and imlib files, the Canvas lib, libdb3, libc6 = glibc6 and the STD C++
lib, libeel0, libdb3, an ESD lib, libaudiofile0, libfreetype6, the GNOME
print library, GTK and a couple of other graphics-handling libs, oaf,
zlib, GNOME support and UI libraries, an XML library, Nautilus, and
Mozilla.  It can (also) be trimmed prior to compilation, to vastly
reduce that list.

And that is _not_ GNOME.  Far from it.

I've noticed that the GNOME crowd's answer to pretty much any dependency
question is to urge installing the entire hairball.  Even to the point
of omitting meaningful dependencies informaiton from project Web pages:
To get to the _real_ dependencies list, you often have to download the
source tarball and read carefully.

Anyhow, I'll set my system's own software-installation policies, thanks.
And that generally means installing only what's necessary.

> I understood that you were confusing "requires GNOME" and "requires
> that the user runs gnome-session with a gnome-aware window
> manager"....

Then, you understand wrong.

>> In fact, largely my point is that the terms "running GNOME" and
>> "running KDE" are illusory concepts that stand in the way of
>> understanding the fundamental situation.
> 
> I don't think so.

You're entitled to your view.  Which is mistaken.  ;->

> ...I don't consider it a gross overstatement to say that installing
> GNOME is required for galeon. Not exactly the same, but not exactly a
> lie either.

Your standards for information accuracy are noted without further comment.
Me, I expect to see a genuine dependencies list.

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