Quoting Ciaran (cj at nologic.org):
> In Rick's initial mail he claimed I was attempting to con the original
Oh dear. I see no such post, here.
He seems, rather, to be making a reference to a private e-mail. But I
didn't attribute such motives to anyone in private mail _either_.
(I made a passing remark that I don't appreciate attempts to con people
about the nature of open source, but didn't say that was his intent.)
Airing private e-mail on mailing lists generally strikes me as a bad
idea for quite a lot of reasons. And attempting to paraphrase actually
makes matters worse: Suppose you accidentally misrepresent what someone
Anyhow, I'm sure Ciaran is a fine fellow, and I certainly would not, and
do not, impugn his motives.
But I do wonder how he could imagine I was accusing him of conning
someone else when he was writing solely to _me_. That doesn't seem to
make a whole lot of sense.
> What I *meant* is that it is proprietary for the reasons you cited,
> but open source in that the source is, well, for want of a better
> word, open.
We call that viewable-source or source-available software. It's a
category of proprietary code. (None of these terms is pejorative, just
descriptive of the licence categories.)
> If a piece of software provides the source code freely, allows
> modifications for personal use and patches for distribution but does
> not have an OSI sticker, does this mean that I cannot use the words
> "open" and "source" in that order in the same sentence as that product
> without fear of reprisals?
If by "reprisals" you mean people saying "Please don't call proprietary
software open source, because isn't", then I suppose so. But that seems
more than a little melodramatic.
> Or is "Open Source" proprietary?
To the same degree that the word "down" is proprietary because
people will consider someone bizarre who uses it to mean "up".
That rhetoric is _really_ reaching, methinks.
Cheers, "The only good goth is a shoggoth...."
Rick Moen -- Alistair J.R. Young, in r.a.sf.w.r-j
rick at linuxmafia.com
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