On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 10:37:38AM -0400, kevin lyda wrote:
> On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 02:26:48PM +0000, John P. Looney wrote:
> > On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 10:23:08AM -0400, kevin lyda mentioned:
> > > On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 02:09:20PM +0100, Niall O Broin wrote:
> > > > people's minds with the name of RedHat - hence you can become a Red Hat
> > > > Certified Engineer but not a a Red Hat Linux Certified Engineer. Branding is
> > > not to get in the way of a really good rant, but if you're going to
> > > complain about names, don't you mean redhat gnu/linux certified engineer?
> > No. RedHat call it RedHat Certified Engineer. No mention of Linux.
>> ok, how explicit must i be?
>> niall seems to be complaining that redhat didn't name their cert
> course "redhat linux cert eng" because it doesn't hilite linux enough.
> however this is the same argument rms uses for gnu/linux which niall
> has chosen to ignore.
No, I wasn't complaining at all. This discussion started off about RH trying
to hold onto their brand and I was pointing out that they want the world to
think of Red Hat in the same breath as Linux, and that one part of this was
pushing the idea of being a Red Hat Certified Engineer - not a Red Hat Linux
Certified Engineer nor even a Red Hat Gnu/Linux Certified Engineer - but a
"Red Hat" Certified Engineer as against a "Microsoft" Certified Engineer.
FWIW I think rms is absolutely right about gnu/linux but I also think he's
pissing against a very strong wind. By rights this should be the Irish
Gnu/Linux Users Group but I think that was floated before and died a death.
I'm a pragmatist (but not enough of one just to use Windows because
everybody else does) so I'll live with the Linux name.
And this Certified Engineer thing reminds me - I read that MS can't use the
title Microsoft Certified Engineer in Canada because Canada has strict legal
requirements as to who can call themselves an engineer. It's like a dream to
me that Ireland has some similar requirements, but perhaps that only applies
to Chartered Engineers - I must pay my back subs to the IEI and then I'd have
somebody I could ask about this.
Niall
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