[ILUG] java compiler

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> > listen dont go near eclipse its to hard
>
>This is interesting... can you tell me *why* it's to (sic) hard?

umm hes probably just starting to program again I re-iterate I believe this 
I dont know , if he was an experienced programer do you think hed be asking 
us?  =) .So as Im just begining Second year in UCD I remeber what we used
and it was just what I described  "a jumped up text editor" Eclipse is 
definetly not its for real Projects ; that's what
I mean by hard , I have Eclipse and I havent even been able to compile 
anything in it , not that ive really tried we still dont need that kinda 
power in the programs we are doing.By the way I would like to use Eclipse in 
college but there's no real need we have only one or two classes(Java 
classes) to deal with so far we are just working on "Algorythms and "emm 
stuff!.Sounds Proffesional eh?.Yep u guessed it its mainly kids play :)

> > Hes trying to LEARN how to program not how to drag and drop!!!!</rant>
>
>Actually, AFAIK drag and drop GUI building is one thing that Eclipse
>*cannot* do!

ummmmmmm well I admit thats a guess , You see it looked kinda like Borland 
JBuilder and that has that
also others suggested drag and drop GUI Enviro's so I was mainly reffering 
to those.I'm not saying Eclipse is
crap I realise my tone could have been counstrued to be emmm insulting 
Eclipse , I didnt mean to as a matter of
fact all ive heard about it is praise thats why i sat down to Download all 
50MG of it on a 56kbs modem , cause of the positive comments ive heard about 
it.Unfortunately I didnt have the knowledge or the will to actually get it 
to work
.I tried HelloWorld :) , basic but I went though the built-in help to at 
least get it complied I couldnt find anithing.See how
amuterish I am? amd Im in second year its possible Eric is in first,again 
its a guess

>The approach you're suggesting (i.e. figure out classpath and the
>javac Foo.java) will work fine for small projects, but for anything
>more than than you're probably going to need some sort of build system.
Small projects are all I think hes going to do
>So now, if time permits, the guy can go and learn about Ant
>(not a bad thing to learn about, BTW) or he could simply let an IDE take
>care of it for him and focus on learning Java.
>Then when he gets time he can write an Ant build.xml (which is IDE
>agnostic)
>and thus he's not tied to the IDE.
>
>Oh, MalformedXMLException.
>
> > Sorry everyone for the lenght =)
>
>and the drivel?????
THANK YOU!

I think ill just go back to being a LURKER mmmuuuhhhaaaaaaaaaa!

>ct
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