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[ILUG] - Press Release -- ILUG Refutes Claims made on Morning

[ILUG] - Press Release -- ILUG Refutes Claims made on Morning

William Campbell, Bua Training william at buatraining.com
Tue Feb 3 10:19:38 GMT 2004


Hi AJ

 

Following our telephone conversation, I'd like to confirm what I said
for you.

 

I think the confusion came from a combination of me being asked by
Morning Ireland to keep away from computer terms, and also getting cut
off mid-thought (by someone who I couldn't see and who could close my
microphone). 

 

First of all I didn't say, and didn't mean, that linux users in general
are responsible for mydoom or any other virus, and I didn't say anything
that could have been reasonably mistaken for that.

 

I tried to draw an analogy between MS's handling of Apple and Netscape
and their attitude now to open source. I'm sure you will agree that
there is at the very least antipathy between the two camps.

 

>From the choice of targets  (SCO and MS) I think it is fair to guess
that the creator of mydoom leans more towards one side of this argument
than the other. I didn't get to finish that point so it probably sounded
incomplete, but I didn't say anything incorrect.

 

If you have an alternative explanation, that is fine, but it is no more
or less valid than mine.

 

By contrast, I am being para-quoted on your message boards as saying
"SCO was attacked, ergo it was done by Linux users, ergo Linux is evil."
I said nothing of the sort.

 

In any event you are entitled to express your point of view and I am
entitled to express mine. What you are not entitled to do is impugn my
professional reputation, so I'd ask you to take out the pejorative
statements on your website.

 

I don't have time it go through every page, but you can start with:

 

[ILUG] SCO / Morning Ireland etc - First do no harm !   Breathnach,
Proinnsias (Dublin) 

[ILUG] re:Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   John Moylan

[ILUG] re:Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Conor_D_Wynne at
Dell.com

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Farrell, Kevin 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Niall O Broin 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Ken Gilmour 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Gavin McCullagh 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Barry Redmond 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Ronan Cunniffe

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Nils 

[ILUG] Creating audio CDs in K3B   Niall O Broin

[ILUG] - Press Release -- ILUG Refutes Claims made on Morning Ireland
about MyDoom and Linux/OSS community   AJ McKee 

[ILUG] - Press Release -- ILUG Refutes Claims made on Morning Ireland
about MyDoom and Linux/OSS community   Vishal Vatsa 

[ILUG] - Press Release -- ILUG Refutes Claims made on Morning Ireland
about MyDoom and Linux/OSS community   Paul Flynn

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Breathnach, Proinnsias
(Dublin) 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Gavin McCullagh 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Peter Aherne 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Darragh Bailey 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Gavin McCullagh 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Ulysees 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Gavin McCullagh 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Christian van den Bosch 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Niall O Broin 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Barry Redmond 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Niall O Broin 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Liam Bedford 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Christian van den Bosch 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Barry Redmond 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Paul Mc Auley 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Chris Higgins 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   NW Dublin 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Alan Horkan 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Breathnach, Proinnsias
(Dublin) 

[ILUG] transcribe(Morning Ireland)   Nils

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Gavin McCullagh 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   kevin lyda 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Gavin McCullagh 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Breathnach, Proinnsias
(Dublin) 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   kevin lyda 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Gavin McCullagh 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Chris Higgins 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Keith Davey 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Tony Bolger 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   raoul duke 

[ILUG] Morning Ireland piece on MyDoom virus   Gavin McCullagh

 

You will note that it is your responsibility, not mine, to find and
remove defamatory statements from your website.

 

In addition, your press release is completely wrong to state "Mr
Campbell stated he suspected the open source community of developing and
deploying this software." I never said that.

 

The controversy seems to be started by:

 

Gavin McCullagh ilug_gmc at fiachra.ucd.ie 

Mon Feb 2 08:30:48 GMT 2004 

 

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Hi,

 

I'm not sure who was listening to Morning Ireland on RTE Radio 1 this

morning but there was a piece just before 8am about the mydoom virus
given

(as an interview) by William Campbell of BUA Training.

 

http://www.rte.ie/news/morningireland.html

http://www.buatraining.com/Personnel.htm

 

Not only did it show William Campbell to be horrifically ill-informed,
but

what he did say was downright slanderous of OSS, Linux and
OpenOffice.org.

 

The impression one got was that Campbell had never heard of OSS and had

been coached by one of his tech department in the half hour run up so he

could talk about this Lynux thing and openoffice.org attacking Microsoft

and someone called SCO.  He basically made the OSS community sound like
a

bunch of spoilt children who were trying to attack Microsoft.  David
Hanley

compounded it by getting him to agree that "this is an act of hatred by
"

OSS.

 

I wouldn't like to be in a meeting recommending OSS software this
morning.

 

Gavin

 

This is just inaccurate. I didn't refer to OSS, I was referring to the
creators of the virus. It is also libellous. 

 

I look forward to your early reply.

 

Regards,

 

William Campbell

 

Bua Training

24 South William Street

Dublin 2

 

Tel: + 353 1 635 0066

Fax: + 353 1 635 0069

www.buatraining.com 

william at buatraining.com

 

 




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