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[ILUG] Re: spam: requiring signed email

[ILUG] Re: spam: requiring signed email

Paul Jakma paul at clubi.ie
Mon Feb 9 15:39:57 GMT 2004


On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Paul Jakma wrote:

> The more expensive, computationally, the algorithm and key size
> mandated for this pgp-sender-effort part is, the better.

The only problem is... are common PGP public-key algo's expensive 
enough? CPU time is cheap compared to bandwidth. Eg:

$ ls -lh test.txt
-rw-rw-r--    1 paul     paul          955 Feb  9 15:29 test.txt
$ wc -l test.txt
     32 test.txt

about 30 Recipient lines, if i encrypt this to a 1024bit DSA key (i 
think DSA):

$ time gpg -e -a -r kevin test.txt 
gpg: WARNING: using insecure memory!
gpg: please see http://www.gnupg.org/faq.html for more information

real    0m1.402s
user    0m0.620s
sys     0m0.120s

less than a second of computational time, and that on a 600MHz
athlon. If a faster cpu could do it in 0.1s, 5000 messages[1] would
take only 500s - so it would just add a small initial 'ramp' cost 
to the existing cost of bandwidth, tcp handshake, reverse lookups by 
remote MTA, etc.

Ie the computational cost would need to be significantly greater than
the latency costs of, eg TCP handshake, ie 150ms (3x 50ms -
typicalish latency) to slow down spammers.

1. each to 200 recipients, hence 1M mails in total. Though, 50 is 
more reasonably, in which case it'd be equivalent to 250k messages.

regards,
-- 
Paul Jakma	paul at clubi.ie	paul at jakma.org	Key ID: 64A2FF6A
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and all of the people some of the time,
but you can never fool your Mom.



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