Brian Foster wrote:
> does anyone have any experience with SFU 3.5 (the
> free (as in free beer) M$ Services for Unix™)?:
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sfu/>> as per some recent postings of mine, the company
> I work for is investigating possible alternatives
> to Cygwin. SFU seems a possibility. there are
> many issues here, but two which are bothering me
> considerably at the moment are:
>> ① “Passport‟? I have no idea what this is, but
> from the reading-up I have been doing on SFU,
> before downloading it you must have one of
> these (which is supposedly free). I myself
> have *no* interest in _anything_ M$ insists I
> have, so am extraordinarily reluctant to even
> download SFU.
> ⇒ What the fsck is it?
>>Passport is Microsoft's all-pervasive digital identity thingy.. Hotmail, MSN
messenger, and I'm sure lots of other MS services use it. You sign in
email address, etc.
> ⇒ How can it be neutralized?
> (I have not yet done any research on what I see
> as a side-issue, which is also perhaps a private
> hang-up of mine.)
>>I know nothing about that..
> ② Re-distribution? SFU seems to obey the shrink
> wrap maxim that you cannot read the license
> until after you have opened it up and by so
> doing (at least in the eyes of some), agreed
> to its terms. Upshot is I haven't been able
> to definitively read M$ terms and conditions,
> but I did find a rather depressing posting of
> what is claimed to be the SFU 3.5 EULA, which
> suggests re-distribution is not allowed. But
> we would strongly like to include whatever it
> is we decide on (SFU or Cygwin or whatever)
> with our product, and so want re-distribution
> ⇒ Does anyone have the faintest idea what the
> story is here?
>>>If it's anything like other MS products, you'll probably have to get a
to redistribute it. Or require your clients to install it themselves.
> there are, of course, numerous follow-ons, like “do
> we want to ‘tie‛ ourselves to a 90000-zillatonne
> capricious monster?‟ (who may also be a competitor),
> etc etc etc --- the above two questions are not at
> all the only issues! --- but I have drawn a bit of
> a blank on the 2nd and am quite annoyed by the 1st.
>> if anyone has actually _used_ SFU 3.5, I would be
> interested hearing of your experiences.
>>>I couldn't use it. It requires installation on an NTFS filesystem, which
I didn't have.
It's a significantly different product to cygwin (not in what it
provides, but in how
it does it). It's an actual subsystem (like the POSIX one but better),
being a hacked win32 program to run unix on (cygwin).
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