On Wed, 07 Jan 2004, Rick Moen wrote:
> Partially motivated by your (probably unintended) flamebait about my
> being "deceptive",
> I'm going to assume that your choice of wording here was unintended and
> very unfortunate on your part. But kindly don't call me deceitful without a
> great deal more competent and relevant evidence. I'm a Viking-descendant
> who hasn't yet had his morning coffee, and can't answer for the
> consequences. ;->
My apologies, it was a bad choice of words. Perhaps "vague" might have
been better. I certainly didn't mean to imply you were being deliberately
deceptive/deceiptful but the statement
> > > Apt-gettable and official counter-examples:
> > > http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/k/kernel-image-2.6.0-test9-i386/kernel-image-2.6.0-test9-1-386_2.6.0-test9-1_i386.deb> > > http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/k/kernel-image-2.4.23-i386/kernel-image-2.4.23-1-686_2.4.23-1_i386.deb
(to my mind anyway) suggested the process is simpler than it really is.
> I've just checked in the Packages.gz entries for for security.debian.org .
> We see information like this:
>> I note a distinct absence of the C library from the Depends line.
Well, that's why I said a tree. As I am also running sarge I can't easily
simulate the install on woody, but we tried it in my other place of work
recently and there's several dependencies unmet in woody. If you allow it
to grab them from sarge (logical enough, that's where the kernel's from)
you quickly find yourself upgrading those packages' dependencies and so on,
which I recall including the C lib.
There do exist unofficial backports of late kernels to woody and chances
are they work well but if one doesn't feel comfortable with sarge, an
unofficial kernel from you-know-not-who is a strange choice. The point
remains of course that he'd probably be very successful with sarge from the
> But honestly, I don't run Debian-stable, and haven't for a long time, so
> it's a bit of stretch for me to remember the specific limitations
> entailed with doing so.
With absolute respect (and I realise I'm questioning my elders here),
just quoting a URL of a kernel-image package which will not install on
stable (without considerable ado) is perhaps a little misleading without a
note such as "you might need to be running sarge for this to work
> Sure. Right down near the bottom of the "Installers" page linked from
>http://linuxmafia.com/kb/Debian is "Scott Kveton's instructions page" on
> making custom netinst images. One or more of the existing ones also
> listed might alternatively be useful.
Thanks, I'll have a look at that.
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