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[ILUG] WYSISYG Editor with IDE

[ILUG] WYSISYG Editor with IDE

Rick Moen rick at linuxmafia.com
Fri Jul 16 16:23:01 IST 2004


Quoting Anthony (ant at elivefree.net):

> I'm starting to lose my faith in Rick's knowledge base.
> No. Not really :-)
> The list of HTML IDEs - http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Devtools/ides.html 
> should also include Nvu - http://nvu.com/index.html

My page of IDEs by design excludes markup tools and covers only
programming IDEs / GUI-builders / RAD tools.  So, Quanta+ and Bluefish
were omitted because I thought of them as HTML editors.  Nvu would be on
the same grounds.  (I distinguish between markup and programming.)

This explanation may seem a little strange in 2004, but here goes.  That
list originally was part of an item on my personal FAQ, here:
http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/index.php?page=kicking#idedev -- for
reasons now obsolete.

All through the first half of the 1990s, one silly but common objection
to Linux was "There aren't any GUI editors for programmers.  You're
forced to use emacs and gdb."  This bit of mind-rot was put forward
primarily by VisualBASIC and TurboPascal coders looking for an excuse to
not consider Linux, and a reason to advise others likewise.  And it
worked for them, because Linux users in the vicinity would tend to
either consider the objection silly and say nothing, or actually go on a
crusade to prove that using emacs and gdb was good for the querent.

Anyhow, I decided I was tired of that rhetoric, and it occurred to me
that none of these people were actually _looking_ to see what IDEs exist
for Linux; they were merely claiming for reasons of polemics that Unix
coders have no IDE tools available.  So, I sat down and found over 100
such tools in about an hour -- and added the list to my personal FAQ.

So, starting some time about 1995, whenver I say someone claim on Usenet
or a mailing list that "There aren't any IDEs for programmers on Linux",
I'd say "Here [URL]; that's over 100 of them.  How many more do you
need?"  And oddly enough, that traditional objection to Linux pretty
much vanished from the Internet within about a month or two.

Mind you, although I'm glad people occasionally find the list useful,
but it got created only to blow a particularly dumb bit of anti-Linux
rhetoric out of the water.





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