For what its worth I agree with Niall here. Its great to see a bit of life
being injected again. As far as those who shout apathy etc, well at least we
can see where it is coming from now.
But yes Niall is right, ILUG is dying and very quickly. It has become a
meaningless organisation IMHO. There are some fantastic people in ILUG who
are only waiting for those with yesterdays ideas and notions to shut their
oversized oral organs and let others get on with it.
ILUG is not personal servitude but rather public. What you do with it is for
your community not your profile. Sure I presume that there are personal
benifits (I for one have never seen any) but if they are your driving force
well then get a job in HR or Sales and don't bother conning the list and the
membership and wasting even more valuable time.
Niall, your ideas are spot on, exciting and an encouraging light in what feels
like an otherwise dark room. Whatever support I can bring to the table to aid
in the progression of ILUG I shall do so wholeheartled, forever mindful of
your email, the membership and the community.
I Have not seen anyone else nominate themselves so if your stuck you have my
consent to draft me into what ever you think I may be useful at
Many thanks for your inspirational email, best of luck, give me a shout to
everyone one, lets kick ass!
On Wednesday 22 September 2004 21:42, Niall Walsh wrote:
> Shortly ILUG will be holding it's AGM and
> YOUR ILUG needs YOU to ensure it's survival!
>> The AGM is taking place at 2pm on Saturday October 16th 2004
> in the premises of the Irish Computer Society in Mount Street, Dublin 2
>> WE ARE BORG
>> What can YOU do?
>> 1. TURN UP! If nothing else, turn up, represent YOUR idea of ILUG and
> demonstrate YOUR support of the ideal of ILUG. Make sure we actually have a
> 2. STAND FOR ELECTION! If YOU have ideas, some time and the willingness
> to commit to trying then throw YOUR name in the hat. If we end up with
> many names, then everyone can choose the direction we wish to take.
> YOUR intention to run and tell people what YOU will bring to the
> table. There are 6 positions: Chairman, Treasurer, Secretary, PRO and 2
> general committee places. I hope I am not annoying any incumbents
> intending to stand but there is nothing to stop anyone standing for any of
> those positions, YOU will need 2 members to nominate YOU but that's it.
> current Secretary has informed us that both himself and the Chairman
> are standing down so the door is open for new blood.
> 3. Pledge YOUR support to the incoming committee, tell them YOU are there
> for them and want to help them. YOU don't have to make specific promises
> and YOU don't have to do anything YOU don't want to, but if YOUR reading
> this perhaps YOU care enough about Linux enough to think of something YOU
> can do to help.
>> Why am I shouting out about all this?
>> 1. I've been a "member" of ILUG for quite while now but I've had enough
> 2. ILUG is dying because it has not adapted or evolved, it has grown
> stagnant and seems on the verge of collapse
> 3. I'm NOT willing to just sit by and let it die without a fight
> 4. UNLESS you all happy to sit by and let it die in which case I'll
> let it
> die in peace
> 5. I AM willing to stick my neck on the line and stand
> 6. I must say I have never even attended an ILUG AGM before, have you?
>> RESISTENCE IS FUTILE
>> What do I propose we do?
>> Rebuild ILUG afresh, from the ground up. Make all decisions anew and
> document our reasons, rewrite our constitution and put all our means of
> commincations (lists and sites) together again, ensuring that it is valid
> and up-to-date and also that it is something we can maintain collectively,
> restructuring where we think we need to. Reassociate ourselves with the
> local lugs, perhaps encouraging more local lugs, but figuring out how to
> create and maintain the ties between them so we provide the best community
> for ourselves and new citizens of Irish Linux land. Encourage our
> members to start new projects and to look to each other to help out, build
> a todo list for ilug so we know where we are going and what we can do!
> Maintain a vital public appearance and keep channels open with the media
> to ensure a balanced in the Irish media for the issues that concern us.
>> Can we do it? That depends on how many of us there are! I'm not
> suggesting it is trivial or easy, but anyone who can read this far can
> certainly contribute and must be willing (or what the heck are you doing
> on this list and why are you still reading).
>> ILUG is a collective of individuals, opinions vary wildly but we all have
> one common underlying connection, software. There is no need for us to
> bond into a tight unified group, in fact it would be contrary to the very
> ideals upon which our connecting software is developed (the choice
> empowered by the words "fork you" breeds diversity), but if we cannot
> sit in a room together, once a year and decide where we will go next and
> will take us there then perhaps we should not bother existing.
>> DEATH IS IRRELEVANT
>> Linux.ie is dying, but it isn't dead. Help save it, show YOUR support.
>> If you've made it this far please reply to the list and tell it:
>> A: To die
> B: YOU'll be at the AGM
> C: YOUR standing for ......
> D: YOU don't live in Ireland and hence won't be at the AGM
> (and can't vote anyway)
> E: YOU want us to keep going, but you can't be bothered to turn up
> or do anything
>> Let's see if anyone cares!
>> I'll see YOU at the AGM!
>> Niall Walsh
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