On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 11:45:16AM +0000, Gareth Eason wrote:
> I think there is some over-optimism on channel regarding this. My
> attitude would be that if you can get some certification, get it. It
> almost doesn't matter what it is, provided it's from a reasonably well
> recognised body.
> I would politely suggest that anyone who claims that certification
> (bits of paper) doesn't matter when looking for a job clearly has not
> gone looking for a job recently (in the past 3 years, say.) I totally
> agree that when on the job, it's experience that counts, not the paper.
> However, to get to the interview where you're talking to people who
> realise this, and can evaluate your experience in some useful / relevant
> fashion, you first have to get past HR - and possibly past an agency.
I know I'm not alone in this - a few years ago I sent my CV in for a Linux
job which required "HTTP" experience, so I mentioned in my CV I had apache
and IIS experience. Agent wouldn't forward the CV to her client.
My own personal view on Linuyx certifications in particular is that unless
the company has a very specific requirement for a certification (RedHat
partner for instance), even though they are a better reflection of your
ability than say a MCP, they are actually less relevant. People
recruiting Linux people know certifications are not the be all and end all.
> pointing out that I had been using MS products extensively since DOS
> 2.10, and having written training courses and trained people who do have
> MSCEs (and other qualifications which I regard as actually meaningful),
> the HR Drone was adament that having an MSCE was a requirement for the
> job. As it turns out, I almost certainly didn't want the job - but
I wouldn't want this job precisely because the people hiring seemed to
place more emphasis on paper than ability.
> I'm currently working through the material to do an RHCE - not
> because I don't know about RedHat Linux (and/or many other flavours) - but
> because it's about a billion times easier to just say to some HR drone,
> "Yes - I must know Linux because I have an RHCE. Next inane question
> please..." ;-)
Which might impress HR people but is completely useless when it's two
technical managers grilling you on the tech :) Interestingly, that
happened to me last year for a job I interviewed and I was offered the
job without talking to any HR person other than the agency guy.
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