| Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 17:17:35 +0100
| From: Bryan O'Donoghue <typedef at eircom.net>
| Brian Foster wrote:
| > p.s. and I was trying so hard to stay _out_ of
| > all the recent silly ILUG debates .... ;-(
| I get the feeling, I've put words into your mouth a little bit here, my
thanks for the apology.
| The fact that you said, that you had used ATMs in France, but,
| considered on-line banking to be insecure, prompted me to state that...
uh, NO, here we go again! ;-(
what I said was some bank _branches_ in the South of France
use "airlock" doors, presumably similar to those which can
apparently now can be found in some parts of Ireland;
and I suggested in an off-hand comment that a solution to
what started this thread is to not use on-line banking;
and that I really really disliked on-line shopping (a point
which may have gotten lost?);
but that I had done on-line transactions nevertheless.
at no time did I mention ATMs; or why I don't like on-line
shopping; nor have I ever said on-line banking is insecure,
but it is obvious (from, e.g., agreeing with the ghist of
Colm's posting) that I do have problems with it.
|[ ... ]
| Out of curiousity though... why don't do on-line banking or web
| shopping? Is there, some security flaw, in the on-line banking process,
| that makes it, /less/ reliable then... an ATM ?
fair question! but, as I have also said, I will not
answer in an ILUG post since it has nothing to due
with Linux (AFAIK). I don't mean to sound rude here,
but I am concerned about being misquoted again, so I
_also_ will not reply to, e.g., private e-mail.
| I don't do on-line banking, but I plan to and yes [ ... ]
I do have on-line banking access, albeit not with an
Irish bank, which I used once, from Linux (Firefox).
it "worked" in the sense the very trivial transaction
happened. I consider it a backup of last resort.
( the bank in question happens to have extremely good
telephone service. the obvious security precautions
seem sound — albeit I did have a two-way correspondence
with some of the technical stuff over a potential
hole (an attack using telephone call loggers). )
and yes I do use ATMs, as well as in-branch banking
(with is always amusing when my Français meets the
clerk's Anglais!), credit cards, and other options.
I never _had_ a problem (albeit I have had credit
cards stolen more than once), except for that caused
by critical snail-mail going missing or being severely
delayed. in no cause would e-mail/on-line have helped.
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