[ILUG] where are the Irish "Summer of Code" entrants?

[Ivan Kelly]

Hmmm, i'd have to disagree with this. I've found so far, everything they teach
in comp sys is quite relivant except for 1 or 2 bullshit modules, but they
allow to many people to pass them. the problem isn't the course content, it
the people learning it. they just seem to want the marks and have no interest
in what is thought to them, to them, so they dont actually learn it,
regurgitate something they read in the exam, and come out with degrees without
actually understanding what they were thought.
just my 2 cents,
Ivan

On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 11:13:17AM +0100, Dave O' Connor wrote:
> I was in the same situation as James. Of my class of about 120 in
> first year there were many classes where there were only 4 or 5 at the
> lectures. My degree wasn't worth the paper it was written on,
> but don't tell any potential employers that, ok? :)
> 
> What I've learned, I learned outside college and I know I'm not the only
> person on this list who did the same course in the same year who feels
> this way. Most of the class couldn't have cared less what they were
> studying and while I was disappointed entering it, thinking I'd actually
> be really interested and motivated to learn, it was just a grind. I did
> learn but not anything that was really all that useful.
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, James McCarthy wrote:
> 
> > On 14/06/05, Paul Biggar <paul.biggar at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 6/14/05, Dave O Connor <doc at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Not so much 'brainwashed by MS' as brainwashed by the typical Irish
> > > > attitude of 'Get in, get the grades, get the degree, make the money'.
> > > > The vast majority of Irish computing students aren't actually all that
> > > > interested in computing as a subject (or as an art). They've either
> > > > been mesmerised by the potential money they could be making, or think
> > > > it'll be easy and fun. Very few computer courses in Ireland encourage
> > > > them to rise above that.
> > >
> > > Bollocks. I see no evidence of this. Can you back this up, please?
> > >
> > > In my class, probably half  were true and true geeks: code in college,
> > > code at home, talk about computers in the pub. And my class entered at
> > > the height of the bubble. Kids coming  in to college these days can
> > > code before they get there!
> >
> > what god like college are you going to, there's only about 4 in my
> > entire year who can actually code, me being one of them.
> > out of my entire year im one of the only ones who actually spends any
> > of my free time, and im one of the applicants for the summer of code.
> >
> > I.T coarses here are sheeite, after 4 years ive learned nothing in my
> > coarse usefull, all the things that got me my work experience (student
> > sys admin) i learned outside college.
> > Colleges here arent really interested in making good
> > developers/programmers/I.T proffesionals, theyre interested in their
> > students getting good grades & nothing else.
> >
> > I personaly feel that my degree aint worth shit when I get it.
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