[ILUG] where are the Irish "Summer of Code" entrants?

[Simon Kenyon]

On Tuesday 14 June 2005 12:08, Dave O Connor wrote:
> > Bollocks. I see no evidence of this. Can you back this up, please?
>
> With what, bullshit figures?
>
> > In my class, probably half  were true and true geeks: code in college,
> > code at home, talk about computers in the pub. And my class entered at
> > the height of the bubble. Kids coming  in to college these days can
> > code before they get there!
>
> I do agree that it's probably getting better, but from what I see
> certainly in DCU, and from what I hear from other courses, a lot of
> places are basically degree factories (DCU is especially guilty of
> this, but I digress).
>
> Certainly in my case, After 3 years of a Computer degree, people in my
> class were contemplating making official complaints to the college
> because they were being asked to code in C, which they hadn't had
> extensive tutorials in, and basically hadn't been spoonfed.
>
> Yes, there are a lot of nerds in college, who do genuinely like what
> they do. But, I still say most folks get into computers for money, or
> because they reckon it'll be easy, or a laugh, or they are interested
> or involved in computer culture. It's specifically a trait of Irish
> people, I think. Easy way out, more more more for me and to hell with
> everyone else.
>
>      - DoC

in a previous life i used to hire grads
we used to choose UL comp sci first, DCU comp sci second and trinity 
maths/comp sci third

maybe the cources have changed or maybe people's expectations have changed
-- 
simon