[ILUG] where are the Irish "Summer of Code" entrants?

[Lee Hosty]

Sarunas Vancevicius wrote:
> On 15:05, Mon 13 Jun 05, Justin Mason wrote:
> 
>>Have all the Irish college kids been brainwashed by MS, or something?
>>Or are they all already interning at google anyway and therefore
>>not permitted by the T&Cs?
>>
>>--j.

> Brainwashed probably, probably yes. But there are more reasons that
> so little applied; already having a job, not sure can one
> successfully complete the project, chances of getting it, et cetera.

Give up before you've even started? What sort of wondrous children are 
being raised and educated in this cowardly country.

> As a person who recently finished first year CA in DCU, I have to
> agree with what DoC and valen were saying. The past exams are very
> similar for that module, and a person who has no idea whats going on, 
> but has good memory and some time before the exam can do very well
> it. So thats probably one of the reasons that you end up with people
> who have no clue on how to program in 3rd and 4th years. The other
> might be because people only look over the lecture notes, and are
> only really exposed to code written by the lecturers and other
> students. So they are not really exposed to the code written in The
> Real World.

and whose fault is this?

As someone who tried (half-heartedly) and failed to get a degree in 
Aeronautical Engineering in UL, I have to say that programming and 
computers in general are simple to figure out, and easy to pick up. 
Learning how to program isn't advanced magick or involve anything to do 
with reading notes/books - it involves liberal application of removing 
finger from arse.