Quoting Colm Buckley <colm at tuatha.org>:
> On 22 Jun 2005, at 16:46, nadir at compsoc.nuigalway.ie wrote:
>> > you seem to be obsessed wiht fun-roll-loops, I think done properly
> > you can make your system faster, but yes maybe only 10 or so, Im no
> > fan of overclocking or anything myself, I use gentoo for the
> > following reasons.
>> It's nothing like 10%. It might be 2-3%, but you're optimizing one
> component of the system at the expense of others.
>> > 1. Portage rules, the ebuilds often provide packages which just
> > work, they are preconfigured, tweaked, patched, I have found with
> > debian and ubuntu and especially rpm based distros, that the
> > package management gives u the package, plus all the pain of
> > sorting out conflicts etc, portage works, and damn well.
>> This is not true. Ubuntu and Debian do *not* give you "the pain of
> sorting out conflicts"; they both have very strict rules on
> dependencies and version controls. As for packages which "just
> work", I've yet to see any distro which pays more attention to
> sensible configuration than Debian's. The dpkg-configure system
> allows for sensible defaults to be specified and per-site
> modifications to be made at package install time without necessarily
> editing the package's config files manually.
Im refering to applications like wine, which come with a host of patches
for example this simple wine ebuild
src_unpack() {
unpack Wine-${PV}.tar.gz
cd "${S}"
epatch "${FILESDIR}"/wine-20050524-alsa-headers.patch
epatch ${FILESDIR}/winearts-kdecvs-fix.patch
sed -i '/^UPDATE_DESKTOP_DATABASE/s:=.*:=true:' tools/Makefile.in
test_flag -fstack-protector && epatch ${FILESDIR}/${PV}-no-stack.patch #66002
}
I like the extra touches
I totally agree with your point on apt having it's dependancies correct, I guess
I didnt phrase that sentance very well, but Ive had hell with rpm
also I could be wrong here, but with apt, can you install several versions of
one applications.
>> > Also the USE flag sustem is miles ahead of anything else out there,
> > the ability to configure specific support for applications without
> > having to wade through configure and make files is awesome. Time to
> > emerge world is fine , leave it go over night, problem solved.
>> "configure and make files"? On a binary distribution? I think not...
>> Colm
then what happens if you want an application installed with or without say gtk2
support ? do they just build loads of optional support in anyway
>> --
> Colm Buckley / colm at tuatha.org / +353 87 2469146
>>>
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