I think you have summed up Gentoo very well. Its excellent because of Portage
and the documentation, not because of optimisations. It handles dependencies
well and upgrading can be a continuous process rather than a huge jump from
distro X.Y to X.Y+1
I run mainly on the x86 stable set but have a few packages running on the
unstable branch...just for fun. Compiling your own packages is not a big deal
unless its KDE (hours!). Some big packages such as OpenOffice also come in
precompilied binary formats - just look for OpenOffice-bin so you don't have
to compile everything.
On the other hand I live in fear of upgrading our Mandrake boxes... something
always seems to break.
A first Gentoo installation can be hard compared to other distro's (print the
manual and follow it carefully) but when it up its very easy to maintain.
On Wednesday 22 June 2005 16:46, nadir at compsoc.nuigalway.ie wrote:
you seem to be obsessed wiht fun-roll-loops, I think done properly you can
make your system faster, but yes maybe only 10 or so, Im no fan of
overclocking or anything myself, I use gentoo for the following reasons.
1. Portage rules, the ebuilds often provide packages which just work, they
are pre configured, tweaked, patched, I have found with debian and ubuntu
and especially rpm based distros, that the package management gives u the
package, plus all the pain of sorting out conflicts etc, portage works, and
damn well. Also the USE flag sustem is miles ahead of anything else out
there, the ability to configure specific support for applications without
having to wade through configure and make files is awesome. Time to emerge
world is fine , leave it go over night, problem solved.
2. Documentation, I have yet to see better documentation, better wiki and
3. Community, yes I like them, there are less lamers who try to beat down
Quoting Colm Buckley <colm at tuatha.org>:
> On 22 Jun 2005, at 16:18, Vishal Vatsa wrote:
> > Also most people don't want to spend like a couple of days of
> > setting up the system for 10-20% boost. Its just not worth the
> > compile time if don't have the latest and greatest CPU. And if you
> > do then do you really care about 10% boost?
>> 10-20% is *extremely* unlikely. It might be plausible if you were
> running i386 code on a P4, but not when using funroll-loops etc
> against stock -O2 on x86-64.
>> Also note that most of the recommended Gentoo optimisations such as
> funroll-all-loops are optimising CPU usage against disk and RAM
> usage. On most modern systems, where the CPU is very fast and RAM
> and disk slower, this will lead to *decreased* system performance.
>> You also have to set the time spent compiling against potential
> savings in runtime; most Gentoo packages seem to version-up every
> couple of days, so there's virtually no chance that the (theoretical)
> runtime gains will stack up against the time spent compiling.
> Colm Buckley / colm at tuatha.org / +353 87 2469146
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