On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, nadir at compsoc.nuigalway.ie wrote:
> The portage system is robust, as is the baselayout. Infact it
> teaches the user more about linux than a debian install does.
This is probably an attracting feature. Gentoo users feel they're
learning more because they're exposed to more of the details. That's
not an argument for advocating it as a general purpose OS though.
That probably explains why the Gentoo forums are 'better' - they need
to be more active simply because Gentoo sucks the user into tinkering
with far too much evil stuff.
> 2. as far as Im aware apt can not easily handle different builds, like in
> portage if I want to install mplayer with framebuffer support, mmx , mmx2, ,
> sse, sse2, but no opengl or X support. I can
>> 3. USE="mmx,mmx2,ssse,sse2,-opengl,-X" emerge mplayer
Eek!
Why do I want to have specify which SIMD instruction sets an
application should use? Eek Eek.
As for OpenGL, X, other libraries - well if just one application
links to a shared library, then you might as well have others link
to - it costs nothing.
There is a problem in some software in gratuitiously using libraries
that create significant amounts of state - the "panel applet which
uses 20MB of data" syndrome - but typically there's *nothing* you can
do about that with a compile time option. The application *must* use
the library, so either it would need to be modified not to do so or
(better) the library should be fixed to be less hungry.
PS: Configure options are mostly evil imho.
> 4. Portage has lots of ebuilds ubuntu and debian miss, like I was
> saying before, ut2004,doom3,celestia, etc
These typically are not redistributable. How does Gentoo get away
with this?
> for every reason we mentioned in this discussion. I wont list them
> all again
If you can't answer a question, ignore it. Ye olde trusty debating
technique.
regards,
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