On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 15:07 +0100, John Madden wrote:
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>> On (29/06/05 14:42), Nils Olofsson didst pronounce:
> > > Why bother doing any of the above?
> > choice maybe ?
>> And that's what it all comes down to -- choice. What you use is your own
> choice. I don't expect anyone to tell me what's better than what I want
> to use, and I won't tell anyone else either. If a question is asked,
> it's simple to give an honest reply about how you find X for doing task
> Y. Someone else may use something different for the same task, and find
> it easier / more suitable / whatever, but that doesn't mean you have to
> change what you use.
> This thread has degraded past even a mildly amusing,
I agree with you there.
> or even mildly
> interesting debate on the benefits of Gentoo's packages as opposed to
> other package management systems. If people want to run Gentoo at home,
> so be it.
Its all about choice in that respect.
> If they want to waste CPU cycles compiling every piece of
> software, again, so be it.
what else would the cpu be doing other wise :)
> It's all their choice. But they have no right
> to force their "Gentoo beats all" opinion on the rest of us that _don't_
> run Gentoo. Personally, I run Debian on 2 servers, my (AMD64) desktop
> and my laptop, and I'm quite happy with it. I'm not saying everyone else
> should use, or even try, Debian. I don't care whether you do or not. I'm
> sure it has its advantages over Gentoo, and Gentoo probably has
> advantages over Debian -- it all depends on the scenario and what you
> want it to do.
Please tell me where i said "Gentoo beats all" i've never said such a
> So, for God's sake, give up on the persistant nit-picking crap.
I've never nit picked anything, i stated the facts as i know them its up
to people to decide from there, but spreading BS about gentoo defects
> If this
> thread is to come to _any_ use at all, both sides of the argument need
> to put forward valid, substantiated arguments for their choice, or just
> shut up and let it pass. I have to say though, most of the valid
> substantiated arguments have come from the non-Gentoo crowd so far.
What arguments are they ?
in a mixed H/W enviroment binary package managment system would be
better suited to this.
> is not meant as flame-bait, and if it's picked up as such, won't be
> replied to (by me anyway). If you think your distro beats all else, then
> substantiate why. If someone disagrees, who cares! It doesn't change
> your opinion, and you have no right to change theirs.
Some of your comment are flame-bait, I've stated before "choice" give
people the facts and let them make their own mind up.
> > > It's all done for you already in
> > > Ubuntu or Debian.
> > so what your saying is ubuntu/debian is perfect for every situation and
> > any other way is stupid or in "cloud-cuckoo land" ?
>> And this is a perfect example of bullshit. I haven't seen _anyone_ post
> _anything_ to say _any_ distro is better for every situation. What the
> previous poster _did_ say is that the packages are already built for you
> if you use Debian / Ubuntu, and asked why, if it's already done for you,
> would you do it again instead of using what's been done before? Don't
> re-invent the wheel and all that.
people have stated that because you don't have to compile from source
and you "all get the same binary" that its a better way than source
install( its gets more testing etc) I think there are enough gentoo
users to test the vast majority server related software, and I don't
think compile from source Distos are re-inventing the wheel.
debian was compile from source afterall.
> Essentially, cut out the shite. If you've got an argument to make, then
> make it. Otherwise shut the hell up.
I'm not trying to argue with people, just trying to give my opinion.
and the facts as i know them.
> Apologies to all for the longwinded post, but this thread is getting
> boring. Guess I'm just trying to either liven it up or kill it :)
>> And it's obvious anyway, Debian is the best distro ;p
you see, now thats flame-bait.
> /me ducks
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