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[ILUG] EU constitution

[ILUG] EU constitution

Colm MacCarthaigh colm at stdlib.net
Thu Mar 10 11:31:10 GMT 2005


On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 11:32:00AM +0000, Bryan O'Donoghue wrote:
> As someone who opposes a Federal Euopean Union (precisely because I 
> doubt in it's ability to govern in place of an Irish parliment [1]), 

In fairness, it's hard to do a worse job. 

> conglomeration of nominally democratic entities, but, the structure of 
> the EU, is not a democracy... quite clearly. Yes, apparently, that's the 
> fault of those of us, who don't want a Federal Union... and alarmingly, 
> the "fix" the Federalists seem to be proposing is A) Not to make any 
> real moves to reforming the Fundamental structure of having the 
> Comission at the Apex of European legislative enunciation B) to make it 
> easier, for large voting blocs in the quasi-Democratic [2] Comission to 
> push proposals through the Comission and C) to give more power to the 
> EU, in the process.

Democracy is about empowering large voting blocs, that's what democracy
is. It's majoritarianism.  

Your mails seem like contradictory jingoistic non-sensical ramblings.

You wan't more a more power to the democratically elected parliament but
describe yourself as an anti-Federalist. When you suggest things like
...

> To my mind, the only accountable, entity with a competence at Euopean 
> level is the European Parliment and unfortunately, the proposals of the 
> constitution _don't_ put that democratic entity at the Apex of governance.

... doesn't that imply a greater federalism? If more authority is to be
divested to a European-level parliament, unless you're talking about a
single superstate that implies greater federalism.

> [1] Recent events with the patent fiasco, only reaffirm the belief that 
> the EU, is incompetent to govern effectively.

And you think the Oireachtas isnt? 

-- 
Colm MacCárthaigh                        Public Key: colm+pgp at stdlib.net



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