[ILUG] Mary Celeste website

[John Allen]

On Mon 12 Jun 2006 22:41, Niall O Broin wrote:
> On 12 Jun 2006, at 22:22, Stephen Shirley wrote:
> > Niall O Broin wrote:
> >> Ah, you've subscribed to the fiction that people can be "on" a
> >> site at a particular point in time. HTTP is a stateless protocol -
> >> fetch a page, and you get it or you don't - there is NO on,
> >> despite what those selling statistics will tell you. But ignore me
> >> - you just pushed one of my buttons there.
> >
> > Interesting. You might want to explain that to the cgi:irc folks.
>
> Oh, there's a metric shitload of ways of simulating state in systems
> using HTTP, with the wonderful Web 2.0 making great use of same. What
> particularly sticks in my craw is those web stats tools which claim
> to be able to say that a user spent X minutes "on" your web site.
>

Ah yes, but what they mean by that is you first visted at say 10:45, and then 
appeared periodically until 11:12, after which you were not seen for a period 
exceeding 15 minutes, making for a 27 minute "visit"

> However, I'm enough of a pragmatist to recognise that this, like the
> meaning of hacker, is a lost battle.
>
>
>
> Niall

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