We tend to talk of a CS degree as if there were a single standardised
one. There are several types of CS degrees and IT degrees which produce
completely different types of "animals". The quality of the product of a
particular CS or IT degree also largely depend on the individual. There
is not as much homogeneity in acquired skills and quality among the
products of CS & IT degree programmes as we would find at the end of an
industrial production line. The heterogeneity of computing skill levels
exists among CS & IT degree graduates as much as it does among
non-degreed, self-taught and industry-groomed IT or computer
professionals. The issue is about the method of measuring the computing
skills, quality of those skills and other desirable skills within the
shot span of time available during the recruitment process of a company.
Possession of a degree is generally the minimum standard measure into
which the nation's tax payers have invested into. There is no standard
measure for skills acquired during a self-grooming/self-teaching process
occurring outside the formal system although we all know that there are
many gurus out there who have even surpassed what universities and
colleges can produce. The logical thing to do is for those of us who
believe that we've acquired high-level skills in a particular area to
formalize those skills through acquiring a proven qualification, e.g., a
degree or diploma, in the area. I see no logic in undermining national
investments in the form of degrees unless we have a good solution to
replace the problem that they solve.
Rory Browne wrote:
> On 5/5/06, Brian Foster <blf at blf.utvinternet.ie> wrote:
>>>> | From: Kae Verens <kae at verens.com>
>> | Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 11:53:12 +0100
>> |[ ... ]
>> | I remember fuming about one graduate of a computer
>> | science degree that asked me for help starting her
>> | computer. Turned out she'd left a floppy disk in,
>> | and the computer couldn't get past that to the OS
>> | on the hard drive.
>>>> what, please, is the connection between the person having
>> a degree and not diagnosing the problem? I totally fail
>> to see the connection here .... no ;-)'s
>>> you would hope that the person with the degree in cs would understand the
> operation of a computer, and understand the boot sequence
>>> we can test this. if a person doe NOT have a degree, does
>> that mean the person would diagnose the problem?
>>>> my hypothesis is NO. presuming I am correct, I conclude a
>> degree is not relevant to the example.
>> which I think is his point - the fact that the cs graduate had a degree,
> didn't necessarly mean that she knew or understood the practical
> of computers.
>> This is like he was saying - "A degree doesn't mean an awful lot", and
> argue back "A DEGREE MEANS ABSOLUTELY SFA".
>> Try to think about what you're saying, and evaluate your
> understandinjg of
> other peoples points.
>>>> so, I ask again,
>> what is the connection?
>>>> very puzzled,
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