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> To: ilug at linux.ie> Subject: ILUG Digest, Vol 21, Issue 47
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>>> Today's Topics:
>> 1. Re: OT - Rainbow series (paul at clubi.ie)
> 2. Re: Perl hacker required. (paul at clubi.ie)
> 3. Re: Perl hacker required. (Tony Byrne)
> 4. Re: Perl hacker required. (Niall Walsh)
> 5. Re: Perl hacker required. (Ewan Oughton)
> 6. Re: internetless upgrade (Andrew Court)
> 7. [Job] Web Services developer with Solid Perl required.
> (Tony Byrne)
> 8. Re: Perl hacker required. (Tony Byrne)
> 9. Fwd: MySQL Training coming to Dublin, Ireland (kae at verens.com)
> 10. Nokia 9000 Communicator Charger (James Carrington)
> 11. Nokia 9000 Communicator Charger (James Carrington)
> 12. OT: Yet another PHP developer needed - job posting. (Tomasz Muras)
> 13. Re: Perl hacker required. (Paul Mc Auley)
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:26:10 +0100 (IST)
> From: paul at clubi.ie> Subject: Re: [ILUG] OT - Rainbow series
> To: Irish Linux Users Group <ilug at linux.ie>
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707271224440.17870 at hibernia.jakma.org>
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>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Brian Foster wrote:
>>> highly contentious.) I'd _guess_ it'd be even worse now with the
>> so-called War on The World, er sorry, on Terror.
>> You mean the War on Brown-Skinned People.
>> (600,000 down, only another billion to go!)
>> regards,
> --
> Paul Jakma paul at clubi.iepaul at jakma.org Key ID: 64A2FF6A
> Fortune:
> The bug stops here.
>>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:31:17 +0100 (IST)
> From: paul at clubi.ie> Subject: Re: [ILUG] Perl hacker required.
> To: Tony Byrne <ilug at byrnehq.com>
> Cc: ilug at linux.ie> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707271230350.17870 at hibernia.jakma.org>
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>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007, Tony Byrne wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>> I'm new to the ILUG mailing list.
>>>> The company that I work for is looking for an experienced Perl
>> hacker with solid knowledge of Web Services and SOAP. Would
>> anybody object if I posted the details here?
>> Job postings are welcome here.
>> Though, what have you got against greasy-haired hackers?
>> regards,
> --
> Paul Jakma paul at clubi.iepaul at jakma.org Key ID: 64A2FF6A
> Fortune:
> Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you
> do it.
> -- Gandhi
>>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:41:58 +0100
> From: Tony Byrne <ilug at byrnehq.com>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] Perl hacker required.
> To: paul at clubi.ie, ilug at linux.ie> Message-ID: <54D23F8C-6296-492D-8DBF-A7F2089792F2 at byrnehq.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>> On 27 Jul 2007, at 12:31, paul at clubi.ie wrote:
>>> Job postings are welcome here.
>> Thanks Paul!
>> I'll post it to a new thread.
>> Regards,
>> Tony
>>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:43:13 +0100
> From: Niall Walsh <linux at esatclear.ie>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] Perl hacker required.
> To: Tony Byrne <ilug at byrnehq.com>
> Cc: ilug at linux.ie> Message-ID: <46A9DA51.70802 at esatclear.ie>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>> Tony Byrne wrote:
>> The company that I work for is looking for an experienced Perl hacker
>> with solid knowledge of Web Services and SOAP. Would anybody object
>> if I posted the details here?
> If the job is actually for the company you work for sure, post away! If
> the job is for a client of the company you work for (e.g. your company
> is a recruitment agency) then the consensus is that you cannot post to
> this list (and to any recruitment agency reading this follow that advice
> or risk the googlable wrath of many).
>> For anyone potentially interested in the above I noticed directski.com
> (former speaker on postgresql at the ILUG/OpenIreland talks in the RDS)
> have a position for a soap/perl/xml/postgresql/unix "web services
> developer" on their jobs page (http://www.directski.com/go/jobs). Of
> course it could be the same job for all I know!
>> Mildly interesting ILUG twist, I actually found the direct ski job
> snooping back on the last (2005/2006) posts to the Dublin Perl Mongers
> mailing list. I was inspired to have a look by Kens blog post about
> the recent Irish PHP Users Group (IPHPUG) meeting and found a post
> asking if directski were having trouble filling a similar position to
> the above as the job had appeared on "rake of agencies". Could it
> still be unfilled from 2 years ago?
>> Niall
>>>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:39:49 +0100 (IST)
> From: Ewan Oughton <ewan at skynet.ie>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] Perl hacker required.
> To: paul at clubi.ie, ilug at linux.ie> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707271239180.24088 at skynet.skynet.ie>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007, paul at clubi.ie wrote:
>>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007, Tony Byrne wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I'm new to the ILUG mailing list.
>>>>>> The company that I work for is looking for an experienced Perl hacker
>>> with
>>> solid knowledge of Web Services and SOAP. Would anybody object if I
>>> posted
>>> the details here?
>>>> Job postings are welcome here.
>>>> Though, what have you got against greasy-haired hackers?
>> The smell can set off the fire alarms.
>>>>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:01:42 +0100
> From: "Andrew Court" <syklops at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] internetless upgrade
> To: "Daniel Shaw" <dshaw78 at gmail.com>
> Cc: iLug <ilug at linux.ie>
> Message-ID:
> <1702373c0707270501k53fa774o242cf2a772a91f1f at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>> I spent about 3 hours on the phone with a camara user trying to install
> ktouch. In the end I had to say I could not fix the problem with out
> access
> to the box. From what I could see ktouch is not included in the meta
> packages when the distro is installed, and so needs to be installed after
> wards.
The version installed is ktouch 1.5.3 and they need to upgrade to 1.6.
For some reason i could not install it using Apt(cant remember why
> not, may have been because the multi/universe repos were not included),
The apt-get wont work as ktouch 1.6 was intended to be part of kde4 and the release is frozen. Apt-get will not work as it searches for the version allready installed and the newer version is not part of the kdeedu tree at present.
> so I
> had to talk the guy through installing from source. He was very patient
> and
> appreciative, but had never used linux until a few days previously, and
> in
> then end I had to give up.
>> After going to the trouble of tweaking their own version of Ubuntu and
> calling it camarabuntu, could they not have included ktouch as part of
> the
> install?
>> Alternatively, you could compile the program from source on a pc running
> same hardware and software, then convert it to a .deb package with the
> required libraries, and distribute it along with the PC's.
the source files are present here http://ktouch.sourceforge.net/download.php
If you could inform us how exactly to convert it to a .deb package it would be apreciated.
>> On 7/27/07, Daniel Shaw <dshaw78 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello
>>>> On 27/07/07, mark neary <ghostdogtree at inbox.com> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>>> They are using a prog called ktouch which is a touch typing
>>> tutor.Thecurrent version they are using is
>> 1.5.3 and they would like to upgrade to 1.6.
>>> The question is what is the simplest and most direct way to do this
>> bearing in mind that they have little or no internet access.
>>>>> Also bear in mind that not only is this their first experience of linux
>> but also their first experience of pc's!
>>>> Hmmm, well it's a little unclear about who's doing the upgrade and
>> where it's getting done..
>>>> That is, who needs to get the update done, the Camara team or the
>> school? Are the PCs pre-installed before shipping or do they get
>> installed on arrival? Are they trying to integrate the newer version
>> into the installation process? Update it directly after installation?
>> Or update existing installs that have been set up already in the past?
>>>> If you can expand a little on the process and the needs, perhaps I can
>> offer some suggestions. The suggestions still may not help of course
>> :) But then again they might!
>>>> Cheers,
>> Daniel
>> --
>> Irish Linux Users' Group mailing list
>> About this list : http://mail.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug>> Who we are : http://www.linux.ie/>> Where we are : http://www.linux.ie/map/>>>>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:14:02 +0100
> From: Tony Byrne <ilug at byrnehq.com>
> Subject: [ILUG] [Job] Web Services developer with Solid Perl required.
> To: ilug at linux.ie> Message-ID: <BAC787D1-C3F5-4D0D-8094-9D1EDDF536DF at byrnehq.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>> Hi,
>> I'm Head of Application Development with Directski.com and we have an
> opening for an experienced Web Services Developer with *solid* Perl
> application development skills. The basic job spec. and application
> email address can be found at:
>>http://www.directski.com/go/jobs>> For additional background:
>> Our entire booking engine and web site infrastructure is written in
> Perl, running on Apache and mod_perl. We use PostgreSQL for our db.
> The new role will be responsible for designing and implementing APIs
> for our system to allow business partners to book our product.
>> If anyone is interested or has any questions, please feel free to get
> in touch.
>> Many thanks!
>> Regards,
>> Tony Byrne.
>>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:19:28 +0100
> From: Tony Byrne <ilug at byrnehq.com>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] Perl hacker required.
> To: ilug at linux.ie> Message-ID: <AE931014-17AE-4DED-87C2-03EE3407BC69 at byrnehq.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>> [sent to list after falling foul of the reply-to trap]
>> Niall,
>> On 27 Jul 2007, at 12:43, Niall Walsh wrote:
>>> For anyone potentially interested in the above I noticed
>> directski.com (former speaker on postgresql at the ILUG/OpenIreland
>> talks in the RDS) have a position for a soap/perl/xml/postgresql/
>> unix "web services developer" on their jobs page (http://
>> www.directski.com/go/jobs). Of course it could be the same job
>> for all I know!
>> I'm the Head of Application development for Directski.com and it *is*
> the same job :-)
>>> Mildly interesting ILUG twist, I actually found the direct ski job
>> snooping back on the last (2005/2006) posts to the Dublin Perl
>> Mongers mailing list. I was inspired to have a look by Kens blog
>> post about the recent Irish PHP Users Group (IPHPUG) meeting and
>> found a post asking if directski were having trouble filling a
>> similar position to the above as the job had appeared on "rake of
>> agencies". Could it still be unfilled from 2 years ago?
>> No, we did fill that position and I don't recall it taking us all
> that long either. This time around its proving tough to find
> developers with solid Perl skills, although I'm prepared to believe
> that we haven't been looking in the right places until now, or that
> the time of year has something to do with it. Has Perl been deserted
> by serious developers, or are they all working for the Googles &
> eBays of the world?
>> Regards,
>> Tony (serious Perl developer).
>>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:14:32 +0000
> From: <kae at verens.com>
> Subject: [ILUG] Fwd: MySQL Training coming to Dublin, Ireland
> To: ilug at linux.ie, phpug at lists.iephpug.org> Message-ID: <295c62e09d9fcd990fcf9b51876b96bb at localhost>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>> just thought this would be of interest to dublinites.
>> Kae
>> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: MySQL Training coming to Dublin, Ireland
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:26:48 -0400
> From: "MySQL" <news-alert at mysql.com>
> To: <kae at verens.com>
>>>> MySQL is offering FREE MySQL Training Certification Vouchers & Books!
>> Just register on the MySQL for DBA Training course taking place in Dublin
> in
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>> For further information on the course please visit our Training Webpage
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> Email : jmatteazzi at mysql.com> www.mysql.com/training/schedule
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>http://now.eloqua.com/u.asp?s=287&elq=2656F70D79E644E2817D29AC2774C9FE>>>>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:51:02 +0100 (BST)
> From: James Carrington <jelicoe at btinternet.com>
> Subject: [ILUG] Nokia 9000 Communicator Charger
> To: ilug at linux.ie> Message-ID: <20550.5473.qm at web86207.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> They are readilly available from RETROBRICK in fact there is one going on
> EBAY now.
>>> Jamie
>>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:51:58 +0100 (BST)
> From: James Carrington <jelicoe at btinternet.com>
> Subject: [ILUG] Nokia 9000 Communicator Charger
> To: ilug at linux.ie> Message-ID: <301105.13506.qm at web86209.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> They are readilly available from RETROBRICK in fact there is one going on
> EBAY now.
>>> Jamie
>>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:28:12 +0100
> From: Tomasz Muras <nexor at poczta.onet.pl>
> Subject: [ILUG] OT: Yet another PHP developer needed - job posting.
> To: ilug at linux.ie> Message-ID: <1185488892.4774.3.camel at localhost>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>> Hello,
>> My company (Symantec in Dublin) is looking for PHP/Ruby/Python
> developer. If you are interested, please send me your CV to
>tomasz_muras at symantec.com . Please state your availability.
>> cheers
> Tomasz Muras
>>>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:23:37 +0100
> From: Paul Mc Auley <paul at peema.org>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG] Perl hacker required.
> To: ilug at linux.ie> Message-ID: <200707272123.37697.paul at peema.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> On Fri July 27 2007 13:19:28 Tony Byrne wrote:
>> | No, we did fill that position and I don't recall it taking us all
> | that long either. This time around its proving tough to find
> | developers with solid Perl skills, although I'm prepared to believe
> | that we haven't been looking in the right places until now, or that
> | the time of year has something to do with it. Has Perl been deserted
> | by serious developers, or are they all working for the Googles &
> | eBays of the world?
>> I have an alternate explanation. To my mind perl is the weapon of choice
> of sysadmins who occasionally use it to do web applications. PHP seems to
> be a lot more about instant web enabled gratification first and wider
> applications second.
>> Both approaches are okay up to a point, but it means that by the time
> they
> are doing the sort of perl you might be looking for, odds are on that
> they'd be reading CVs rather than sending them.
> Paul
> --
> --- Paul Mc Auley <paulmc at peema.org>
> --
> - ISO applications: A solution in search of a problem!
>>> ------------------------------
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