[ILUG] Free software for .pando files?

[Michael Watterson]

paul at clubi.ie wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Thomas Bridge wrote:
>
>>> I don't have a problem with L2 protocols (like PPP). I have a problem
>>> with encapsulation of layers of L2 protocols over L3 protocols
>>> (L2TP/IP, then again ATM).
>>
>> But why? Other than aesthetics?
>
> Uhmm, how can I answer this without repeating what I've said on how 
> obscurance of network topology (e.g. through tunneling, like IP/ATM) 
> will lead to scenic routing. I've given and restated the same example 
> several times over now.
>
> If IP can't see the shortest route, it can't take it.
>
> regards,
But the traffic can't do what you want unless there is only one ISP for 
the whole country.

The solution is more INEX capacity. That is inexpensive. Doing anything 
else would need a new kind of Internet, not based on IP.

DSL unbundling is of course broken because it costs nearly €18 a month 
per person to eircom for LLU. Then backhaul costs on top of that.

Digiweb Metro is in fact Cable DOCSIS 2.0 over Microwave. Wireless 
solutions to avoid DSL near monopoly vary from Wireless LL missold as 
Broadband, Inappropriately applied WiFi to dedicated "real" Wireless 
broadband solutions from older Alvarion Breeze to newer Fixed WiMax 
solutions. Some Business customers even getting ptp links normally 
sold/installed for backhaul.

Backhaul is a serious cost/problem for DSL LLU. If it was sensible or 
possible to peer at exchanges there would be some interest in it. But 
it's not sensible idea at all.



-- 
Mike