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[ILUG] Free software for .pando files?

[ILUG] Free software for .pando files?

paul at clubi.ie paul at clubi.ie
Fri Sep 7 13:27:29 IST 2007


On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Thomas Bridge wrote:

> Within the context purely of your own customers - you can - you can 
> simply compare the traffic that comes in from the telco to the 
> traffic that leaves the BAS on the other side.  While that doesn't 
> tell you what the value is on a per exchange basis, it does give a 
> hint as to how much traffic is being exchanged directly between 
> your customers. My recollection is that it was pretty insigificant.

Sure, I agreed already you'd see that.

There's no incentive for users and their applications to talk to each 
other if it's not one or more of:

- cheaper

   (ISPs don't differentiate on cost, even if they did, they can't
    differentiate for usage of the links you say are the problem, the
    exchange<->BAS links, cause IP doesn't see those)

- lower latency

   (gamers are obsessed with this, gaming doesn't take much bandwidth
    though)

- higher bandwdith

   (from a DSL customer's POV, the DSL line is mostly the bottle-neck,
    but intra-exchange could be faster if there were serious
    contention. Likely not much of a difference though. Could be a
    much bigger factor for things like cable though)

No incentive, no traffic. ;)

> I agree that you can't tell what the patterns are for other users 
> with other ISPs in the same domain.  I see no major evidence that 
> there is much "localised" traffic taking the suboptimal route.

Because there isn't a more optimal route!

Because we've *hidden* it!

regards,
-- 
Paul Jakma	paul at clubi.ie	paul at jakma.org	Key ID: 64A2FF6A
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