[ILUG] Satellite reception

[Michael Watterson]

Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
> On Sunday 03 August 2008 11:29, Michael Watterson wrote:
>
>   
>> Not in Irish shops. You need Mail Order.
>>     
>
> Whatever - as long as the warranty is valid in Ireland. This brings in 
> Komplett, Dabs, etc.
>
>   
>> Almost no-one will sell a package to Ireland. Due to the pressure of
>> Sports & TV rights holders the Europe Without Frontiers is broken into
>> separate countries by the Pay TV operators. 
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>
> The channels I want are intended for people not in the country of origin. The 
> main package I want is from RTVi, a Russian TV company specifically targeting 
> Russian speakers outside Russia.
>
> Should I contact RTVi themselves for a card?
>   
You can try. Esp. if it is for people outside Russia. Otherwise google.
People here have Arab, Albanian, Polish, French, Dutch etc genuine 
viewing cards, proper paid subscriptions. But often via someone or agent 
in the original country. Also of course Sky NI and Sky UK subs instead 
of Irish ones.

> The other channel is BabyTV, apparently of Israeli origin.
>   
AFAIK it's free on 28.2E. Very very low viewing figures so may not last :(

check http://www.lyngsat.com for 5E and 13E (frequencies Europe and 
click on 13E or 5E not satellite name)
>   
>> You need to make sure that you can well receive the package, For example
>> some satellites have more than one beam and the desired beam is not
>> visible in Ireland (Sirius 5E, Turksat 42E, 23.5E, 26E, Thor 1W etc all
>> have channels received in Ireland an others that are impossible). A 65cm
>> dish is simply too small for reliable reception (esp in West of Ireland)
>> of Hotbird as beams are on Mainland Europe. You will lose important
>> channels in rain. There are several satellites at the 13E Hotbird
>> position with different beams and powers, so some channels are OK even
>> on a 45cm dish in rain.  In Waterford in SE, Europe Mainland beams are
>> much stronger.
>>     
>
> In what way can I veryfy this before buying? Is getting a hacked code the only 
> way to do this?
>
>   
No... you can get legitimate cards for most pay Tv. As long as you have 
the correct physical or soft cam for the card, no hacking is needed.

Beside also apart from legality some eBay and other "unofficial cards" 
are just scams. If it is cheaper than official package/ too good to be 
true it's a scam or pirate card. Genuine subscriptions via 3rd parties 
will usually cost a little more than official price. And some payTV 
suppliers will sell direct to Ireland.


> (I do not intend to use any hacked codes for actual viewing).
>
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>> Don't confuse Sky Pay TV with TV from 28.2. BBC, ITV and many others may
>> be received on a Sky digibox. 
>>     
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> I have only one head on the dish for now and it's pointing to Hotbird, and a 
> second would probably point to Sirius. I also have DVB-T, and I think RTE are 
> freeview there.
>   
Sirus is your best bet for Russian in Ireland. I get several Free 
channels on it.
90cm to 1.2m dish recommended though. We are quite west compared with 
Ukraine :-)

>   
>> Unless you speak no english it would be very strange to not want the
>> FREE unencrypted U.K. TV on 28.2E.
>>     
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> It's just so low on the priority list it would have to wait for a 2nd dish, 
> i.e. not anytime soon. (Besides, for UK TV, I might consider an NTL 
>   
NTL is UPC, it's cable, not DVB-t. Analogue channels to be phased out 
leaving DVB-c only.
> subscription via DVB-T instead; the box is already in the home and I could 
> then use the analog input to watch it).
>
>   


-- 
Mike