Padraig Kitterick wrote:
> Please don't tell people to "shut up" and to "stop this crap". If you
> have a point to make, make it without insulting people. If you have an
> argument to make, present it in a logical way. Do not just curse and
> spew crude insults. I don't need that stuff in my inbox thank you.
okay - I guess I was touchy about being spammed on what is essentially a
techie mailing list.
the OP even /said/ he was spamming! seriously, if while writing an
email, you feel the need to apologise for spamming, then don't press the
especially as Firefox has been discussed so many times on the
mailinglist in the last few days and I'm sure everyone knows by now that
it is available. we don't need yet another reminder, especially one that
admits it is spamming.
> To refute your 'argument': it does matter if firefox is downloaded by a
> large number of people, and also that the mainstream press knows about
> it. This will make the use of the browser valid in the eyes of many
> people who run businesses who would otherwise just force the employees
> to use IE.
it has the feel of a "flash mob" to me, and flash-mobs don't suddenly
encourage business owners to change perspective on ideas.
Firefox is slowly but surely taking over ground - it does not need
gimmicks and fanboy attitudes. All it needs to do is continue to be more
solid and useful than the alternatives.
> This in turn may lead to more business updating their
> intranets and internal web software to not depend on IE5 or 5.5
> functionality, thus removing the need for Microsoft to pack IE with
> multiple compatibility modes and expecting web developers to add more
> metadata to pages just to select a certain rendering mode.
as a web developer myself, I would refute the above - we do not write
HTML for IE5 at all. In fact, we usually write for Firefox, then test it
in IE6 and 7 to catch any potential problems.
we also encourage our clients to use Firefox - to the point that our CMS
actually has a big "download firefox" button in the admin area if you
log in in any other browser.
> If Microsoft
> make IE completely standards compatible by default, it leads to a better
> and more accessible web.
which does not help your argument.
> And if the Firefox download campaign helps to bring that reality even a
> little closer, I would argue it's worthwhile.
well, I don't think it will, and I don't need every second email in my
mailbox to be firefox propaganda.
the people that use firefox don't need to be told about it. the
people that don't use firefox but know about it will just be annoyed by
the spams. the people that /don't/ know about it will probably not see
the point anyway.
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