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[ILUG] Joikuspot

[ILUG] Joikuspot

Joe Molloy molloyjoe at gmail.com
Sun Jan 18 12:19:16 GMT 2009


Joiku supports encryption though only WEP at this time - you might find the
information I posted here of some use though it applies to the Acer Aspire
One - http://tinyurl.com/joiku-aspire-one

Kind regards,
Joe Molloy
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Today's Topics:

   1. How do I start X/KDE straight after boot? (Stephen Kelly)
   2. Re: How do I start X/KDE straight after boot? (Kae Verens)
   3. Any experience with Joikuspot (Niall O Broin)
   4. Re: Any experience with Joikuspot (Michael Watterson)
   5. Re: Booting a broken raid array (John Allen)
   6. Re: Any experience with Joikuspot (Niall O Broin)
   7. Re: Booting a broken raid array (Niall O Broin)
   8. Re: Booting a broken raid array (paul at clubi.ie)
   9. Re: Booting a broken raid array (Niall O Broin)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 13:49:58 +0000
From: Stephen Kelly <steveire at gmail.com>
Subject: [ILUG] How do I start X/KDE straight after boot?
To: ilug at linux.ie
Message-ID: <gksnm7$so3$1 at ger.gmane.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi,

After getting my command line system installed on my EEE, I installed KDE
trunk packages from Project Neon. The packages install to /opt/kde-nightly/

After adding /opt/kde-nightly/bin to my PATH, I can boot up, login, do
startx followed by startkde and I'm running a KDE session. I'd prefer to be
presented with kdm after boot and log into that.

I'm guessing I need to put X and KDM into some startup script, or X needs to
be configured in some way to use KDM. Anyone know?


Cheers,

Steve.




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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:45:21 +0000
From: Kae Verens <kae at verens.com>
Subject: Re: [ILUG] How do I start X/KDE straight after boot?
Cc: ilug at linux.ie
Message-ID: <49723551.6020107 at verens.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Stephen Kelly wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> After getting my command line system installed on my EEE, I installed KDE
trunk packages from Project Neon. The packages install to /opt/kde-nightly/
> 
> After adding /opt/kde-nightly/bin to my PATH, I can boot up, login, do
startx followed by startkde and I'm running a KDE session. I'd prefer to be
presented with kdm after boot and log into that.
> 
> I'm guessing I need to put X and KDM into some startup script, or X needs
to be configured in some way to use KDM. Anyone know?

check /etc/innittab - is the boot level set to 3? if so, change it to 5 -
that should boot into some *DM (xdm, gdm, kdm).

if it's already set to 5 but not booting, a quick hack would be to tell the
system to run kdm after the system boots - 
add "kdm &" to the end of /etc/rc.local

I'm sure there are correct ways to do it, but those two spring to mind from
the available info.

kae


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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:20:17 +0000
From: Niall O Broin <niall at linux.ie>
Subject: [ILUG] Any experience with Joikuspot
To: Irish Linux Users Group <ilug at linux.ie>
Message-ID: <D0C8D600-C246-449B-969B-D741419E4337 at linux.ie>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

I use my Nokia E51 as an internet access device with an Asus EEE  
running stock, and with a Macbook Pro, in both cases connecting via  
Bluetooth. It generally works OK, but now and then it causes me grief.  
On the EEE such grief leads to having to setup the connection again,  
while with the Macbook, I often have to reboot after the connection  
dies, as the Mac can no longer find the phone (though sometimes  
rebooting the phone helps).

Then I heard of Joikuspot, which turns your compatible S60 device into  
a WLAN HotSpot that shares your phone's 3G internet connection to  
external devices.  If this works as advertised, it'd save me all the  
grief associated with the Bluetooth connection, though I suppose it'd  
have a negative impact on battery life.

So, have any of you used Joikuspot? Does it work as advertised?


Niall



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:33:26 +0000
From: Michael Watterson <watty at eircom.net>
Subject: Re: [ILUG] Any experience with Joikuspot
To: Niall O Broin <niall at linux.ie>, 	"ilug at linux.ie Users Group"
	<Ilug at linux.ie>
Message-ID: <49726AC6.4070406 at eircom.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Niall O Broin wrote:
> I use my Nokia E51 as an internet access device with an Asus EEE 
> running stock, and with a Macbook Pro, in both cases connecting via 
> Bluetooth. It generally works OK, but now and then it causes me grief. 
> On the EEE such grief leads to having to setup the connection again, 
> while with the Macbook, I often have to reboot after the connection 
> dies, as the Mac can no longer find the phone (though sometimes 
> rebooting the phone helps).
>
> Then I heard of Joikuspot, which turns your compatible S60 device into 
> a WLAN HotSpot that shares your phone's 3G internet connection to 
> external devices.  If this works as advertised, it'd save me all the 
> grief associated with the Bluetooth connection, though I suppose it'd 
> have a negative impact on battery life.
>
> So, have any of you used Joikuspot? Does it work as advertised?
>
>
> Niall
>
No encryption at all the last time I looked.

An EDGE / 3G connection drops easily and then the Bluetooth may drop.

An HSDPA USB modem and even swapping existing SIM better? Does the E51 
do any better than 384k? I thought it EDGE and 3G only not HSDPA.


-- 
Mike



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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:36:09 +0000
From: John Allen <john.allen at dublinux.net>
Subject: Re: [ILUG] Booting a broken raid array
To: Gareth Eason <bigbro at skynet.ie>
Cc: Kenn Humborg <kenn at bluetree.ie>, ilug at linux.ie
Message-ID: <49726B69.1020304 at dublinux.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Gareth Eason wrote:
> Kenn Humborg wrote:
>   
>>>>> I'd say get a server with a real hardware RAID setup, like a Dell
PERC.
>>>>>
>>>>> Later,
>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> Couldn't agree more, even an entry level one like the t100 or t300
>>>>         
>> ...
>>     
>>> Are you guys on commission to Dell, or something?
>>>       
>> Nope - just happy enough with what I've used, and haven't heard
>> any horror stories about the Dell PERC.
>>     
> [snip]
>
> 	I've had a couple of them where RAID1 was hugely slower than no RAID
at all,
> and similarly slower than RAID5. Down to a bug in the card / firmware, but
>   
Ditto. Software RAID wins in my book everytime.
> took a long time to diagnose and convince Dell it was a problem and that
maybe
> they should replace something.
>
> 	I guess I'm just pointing out that they are not perfect.
>
> 	Best regards,
> 	-->Gar
>
>
>   



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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:30:25 +0000
From: Niall O Broin <niall at linux.ie>
Subject: Re: [ILUG] Any experience with Joikuspot
To: Irish Linux Users Group <ilug at linux.ie>
Message-ID: <B683A832-0171-4F38-8C63-831BDED196F5 at linux.ie>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

On 17 Jan 2009, at 23:33, Michael Watterson wrote:

> No encryption at all the last time I looked.

For my purposes, doesn't bother me in the slightest.

> An EDGE / 3G connection drops easily

Yes, it does.

> and then the Bluetooth may drop.

And yes, it does - and this is a regular source of grief with the  
Macbook - doesn't seem to bother the EEE so much.

> An HSDPA USB modem and even swapping existing SIM better?

No, not better at all. The whole reason for using my phone for  
tethered net access it to not carry yet another device.

> Does the E51 do any better than 384k? I thought it EDGE and 3G only  
> not HSDPA.

You thought wrongly - it does HSDPA though again for my purposes, 3G  
is usually adequate and when I really need it, it's for ssh  
connections, for which even EDGE suffices, in a pinch.


Niall



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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:33:00 +0000
From: Niall O Broin <niall at linux.ie>
Subject: Re: [ILUG] Booting a broken raid array
To: Irish Linux Users Group <ilug at linux.ie>
Message-ID: <6C46E2EB-2F3A-4DCB-A4EC-8324B9374FC4 at linux.ie>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

On 17 Jan 2009, at 23:36, John Allen wrote:

>> 	I've had a couple of them where RAID1 was hugely slower than no  
>> RAID at all,
>> and similarly slower than RAID5. Down to a bug in the card /  
>> firmware, but
>>
> Ditto. Software RAID wins in my book everytime.

ALL RAID is software - it's just a question of where the software runs  
(and I include XOR engines here - still software, really, just very  
specialised software, runing on very specialised hardware) and how  
much you trust said software.  Linux software RAID definitely gains  
from the many eyeballs principle.



Niall


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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 07:03:27 +0000 (GMT)
From: paul at clubi.ie
Subject: Re: [ILUG] Booting a broken raid array
To: Niall O Broin <niall at linux.ie>
Cc: Irish Linux Users Group <ilug at linux.ie>
Message-ID:
	<alpine.LFD.2.00.0901180701001.31066 at localhost.localdomain>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

On Sun, 18 Jan 2009, Niall O Broin wrote:

> ALL RAID is software - it's just a question of where the software 
> runs (and I include XOR engines here - still software, really, just 
> very specialised software, runing on very specialised hardware)

Hmm, not that specialised. The Mylex ones were small embedded 
computers (i960 and then XScale) - using normal SIMMs/DIMMs even. 
Never seen any PERC cards, but no doubt similar thing.

regards,
-- 
Paul Jakma	paul at clubi.ie	paul at jakma.org	Key ID: 64A2FF6A
Fortune:
Advice is a dangerous gift; be cautious about giving and receiving it.


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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 08:37:07 +0000
From: Niall O Broin <niall at linux.ie>
Subject: Re: [ILUG] Booting a broken raid array
To: Irish Linux Users Group <ilug at linux.ie>
Cc: Paul Jakma <paul at clubi.ie>
Message-ID: <4F08AD32-E9CC-4957-8D2F-E8A20D73CFD3 at linux.ie>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

On 18 Jan 2009, at 07:03, paul at clubi.ie wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009, Niall O Broin wrote:
>
>> ALL RAID is software - it's just a question of where the software  
>> runs (and I include XOR engines here - still software, really, just  
>> very specialised software, runing on very specialised hardware)
>
> Hmm, not that specialised. The Mylex ones were small embedded  
> computers (i960 and then XScale) - using normal SIMMs/DIMMs even.  
> Never seen any PERC cards, but no doubt similar thing

Read what I said Paul. The processors on 'hardware' RAID cards are  
many and various - I've even seen x86 variants used IIRC. However, I  
referred to the dedicated XOR hardware included on some cards to  
offload these calculations from the card's CPU - the only thing which  
coudl reasonably be called hardware RAID, as it wasn't software  
executing on a general purpose CPU - though I'd still argue that as  
it's executing an algorithm, it's software.


Niall


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