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[ILUG] Eircom surrenders

[ILUG] Eircom surrenders

James McBoyle james.mcboyle at gmail.com
Thu Jan 29 10:36:37 GMT 2009


2009/1/29 Kevin Philp <kevin at cybercolloids.net>:
> Cathal A. Ferris wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Braun Brelin wrote:
>>
>>> Article in today's Irish Times about how Eircom has capitulated to the
>>> "Big
>>> Four" music labels and will start implementing
>>> "Three strikes" laws against illegal downloaders/uploaders.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2009/0129/1232923373331.html
>>>
>>> I think Ireland needs a "Pirate Party" a la Sweden.
>>>
>>> Braun
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>>
>> Typical - misimplemented and it'll be made a joke of.
>> Problems as I see it:
>> - No definition of 'filesharing'
>> - Reliance on a crowd of muppets to provide information that will lead to
>> denial of service
>> - No distinction between copyright violation and allowed sharing
>> - No distiction between types of shared data (e.g. open source v. music)
>> - No appeals procedure.
>>
>>
>> Idiots.
>> I wonder what IMRO's stance on the matter is - the same people that sent a
>> 'cease and desist' to a fellow Skynet member that his own music shared...
>>
>> Anyone involved in the other providers, please tell the music companies
>> where to shove it.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cathal Ferris +353 87 6438725
>> pio at csn.ul.ie http://www.swibble.com
>>
> And I guess those really into music sharing will just route via an anonymous
> proxy!
>
> I also take issue with the music industries claims of how much money they
> lose. Stopping a free download does not translate into a €12 sale - markets
> are elastic, its basic economics, out of the 100 people who download for
> free how many would actually buy that same item at full price? 5%? ... 1%?
> How much do they really lose - maybe not as much as they claim.

Not only that, how many free downloads translate into sales? Before
the music industry started playing the EvilPirates act on downloading,
CD sale went through the roof for no apparent (to the industry)
reason... that at the time the free sharing of mp3s  had just taken
off was a co-incidence they conveniently ignored and misreperesented



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