Sorry for misunderstanding about the rootless question. Basically, what I gather, is you are asking if all forwarded windows run in one window (the X desktop) or in separate windows (managed by windows itself). I know it was done in rootless (managed by windows). However I couldn't be sure it was done when there was an actual X desktop.
Do you think that would really matter that much?
On the vm note, Ive been looking at puppylinux, DSL and tinycore. I have nothing working yet, but that is mainly due to having to get Suse installed on a zVM.
The advantages of a small VM with a few easy steps also means that when the end users are no doubt going to break the setup, it will be easy to get them rolling again.
From: Ivan Griffin [mailto:ivan at skynet.ie]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 12:32 PM
To: Brian O'Mahony
Cc: ilug at linux.ie
Subject: RE: [ILUG] Small Distro to use as an X server
I'm beginning to agree the VM route may be your easiest. However, it
could be related to the window manager, hence my questions on what X
window manager are you using, and whether you are running in an X Root
Window (nothing to do with root superuser) or rootless (again, nothing to
do with root superuser).
On Fri, 8 Oct 2010, Brian O'Mahony wrote:
> True. To be honest I had to explain to the tech three or four times what I was trying to do. He didn't really understand the UNIX side and X11 forwarding etc.
>> Theory is all well and dandy, but it didn't work in this case.
>>> I presume you are running with a root window -
>> Yep. Clearquest has to run as root afaik
By root window, I mean with all the X apps running within the context of
a single Windows host app/window i.e. quoting from Wikipedia
"When an operating system with a native windowing system hosts X in
addition, the X system can either use its own normal desktop in a separate
host window or it can run rootless, meaning the X desktop is hidden and
the host windowing environment manages the geometry and appearance of the
hosted X windows within the host screen."
>>> if so, is it possible you're running a funny window manager in the non-working case? Have you tried an
>> alternative window manager? i.e. a bog standard TWM or MWM vs Metacity, for instance?
>> Not sure what you mean here. Do you mean on windows?
>>> Also, have you tried the rootless version of Cygwin/X, which allows Windows to perform the window management?
>> Didn't know there was one. But to be honest, I don't think this is an issue. Xming is pretty basic (ie works out of box pretty much) and that had the same issue.
>> A thing to note here is the clearquest installer for AIX was exported and worked.....
If you are running with an X11 Root Window, you'll need to run an X window
manager as well. It could be that the window manager is being funky with
I've not kept up to date, but I recall the Inter-Client Communication
Conventions Manual (ICCCM) standard (a set of interoperability conventions
for X applications) being notoriously hard to implement correctly due to
vague/bad specification. I'm not certain if the successor Extended Window
Manager Hints (EWMH) is any better in that regard.
If you are running in a host window, then try changing your X11 window
manager, or try going rootless.
If you are rootless, try running in a host window.
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