Thanks, Michael. (Apologies for repeating this, if I thanked you already).
I just browsed a little bit around Alfresco, and it seems fine, and
quick to respond - and complex!
Guess we'd better get down to business there!
On 27/09/2011 22:39, Michael Jonker wrote:
> /"Also, messages such as these are disjointed, and, IMO, it would be
> nicer to have a single shared doc/spec (such as on Google-Docs) with all
> these Bookkeeping/Accounting topics properly listed and expanded. But,
> does any such facility exists that's open to all ILUG? "/
>> I have set you guys up a share space on my server:
>>http://alfresco.reviveyourpc.ie/share/page/site/openerp/dashboard>> You can log in for viewing with:
>> User: ilug
> Pass: @ilugopenerp
>> I will send personal invites off list to Philip, Michael and Bernhard as
> managers - you can then manage further invites as and when people want
> to collaborate
>>>> On 27/09/11 19:54, Michael Kennedy wrote:
>>>> Apologies for the delay...
>>>>> openERP runs on PGSql
>>>> Personally, I've preferred PG over MySQL, but I don't have huge
>> experience of either, and, in most cases, and with pre-cooked apps, we
>> (users) have no choice anyway.
>>>>>> 2. Then, we need to identify which "Accounting/Auditing" systems are
>>>> used by the Accountants, and what "Import" facilities are available -
>>>> perhaps CSV files; perhaps databases from "sister" bookkeeping systems.
>>>>>>> Mostly Sage AFAIK - i need to talk to my accountant. Who has also
>>> promised to look into OpenERP
>>>> Agreed... There are a few popular apps (CRO, ROS) which are
>> maintained, and interfaces from OpenERP to these should be investigated.
>>>>> There are a few more aspects. OpenERP does payroll and keeping payroll
>>> up to date with changes in legislation is a task for a committed
>>> professional who gets paid.
>>>> Yep - maybe tweak the existing OpenERP app!
>>>> But... Payroll is often quite tricky; governments keep changing the
>> rules - often at short notice; testing has to be very thorough;
>> responsibilities for messups are serious; printing payslip stationery;
>> major variations in "actual" payroll implementations across various
>> industries; interfacing to Banking systems; etc; etc...
>>>> Maybe check on using a local out-of-the-box commercial product?
>>>> Also, normally, only a few figures need to be transferred from Payroll
>> to Nominal, and many orgs do this manually.
>>>>> We also need a more than basic accounting
>>> framework for Ireland to make life easier.
>>>> Would the "accounting" options in OpenERP not meet most Irish needs?
>>>>> OpenERP does project management on based on GTD and SCRUM. There will be
>>> need for consultants for this and a lot of other features. Also setting
>>> OpenERP up and adminuistrating it (especially the latter) is no job for
>>> the faint of heart, since permissions are given directly in python
>>> statements, which is currently my personal bugbear.
>>>> Wow, that's definitely challenging! It's strange that permissions
>> would not be more user-friendly; maybe "table-driven".
>>>>> One thing I intend to play with is email and calendar integration
>>> between OpenERP and Zentyal.
>>>>>> Also OpenERP has a mass emailing feature, written by somebody who has no
>>> clue of the field (no statistics, no opt-out mechanism, the latter being
>>> a legal requirement). One would need integration with an existing
>>> service such as MadMimi <http://madmimi.com>.
>>>> The only mass-emailing tool I've used is PHPList, but there are
>> others, and maybe there are OpenERP interfaces to some of these?
>>>>> I really like the dynamic we are getting going on this subject and as a
>>> non-coder, but experienced sysadmin I'll certainly be happy to help.
>>>> Thank you for grabbing the ball, and running with it!
>>>> If folks here think these posts are just making "noise" here, please
>> let us know.
>>>> Also, messages such as these are disjointed, and, IMO, it would be
>> nicer to have a single shared doc/spec (such as on Google-Docs) with
>> all these Bookkeeping/Accounting topics properly listed and expanded.
>> But, does any such facility exists that's open to all ILUG?
>>>> - Mike
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